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  • George KG George K

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

    New Hampshire is now in toss-up territory.

    Screenshot 2022-10-28 at 10.44.08 AM.png

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    LuFins Dad
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    @George-K said in Trends:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

    New Hampshire is now in toss-up territory.

    Screenshot 2022-10-28 at 10.44.08 AM.png

    RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @George-K said in Trends:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

      New Hampshire is now in toss-up territory.

      Screenshot 2022-10-28 at 10.44.08 AM.png

      RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

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      George K
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      #47

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

      RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

      Screenshot 2022-11-01 at 5.45.06 PM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @George-K said in Trends:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

        New Hampshire is now in toss-up territory.

        Screenshot 2022-10-28 at 10.44.08 AM.png

        RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #48

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

        @George-K said in Trends:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

        New Hampshire is now in toss-up territory.

        Screenshot 2022-10-28 at 10.44.08 AM.png

        RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

        Latest Trafalgar has him up by one (and trending).

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG George K

          @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

          RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

          Screenshot 2022-11-01 at 5.45.06 PM.png

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          #49

          @George-K said in Trends:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

          RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

          Screenshot 2022-11-01 at 5.45.06 PM.png

          54 seats makes 2024 look very interesting… Could the Republicans pickup 6 seats in Arizona, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Montana, West Virginia, Virginia, Wisconsin, and Michigan?

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @George-K said in Trends:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

            RCP just moved NH into a Republican pickup…

            Screenshot 2022-11-01 at 5.45.06 PM.png

            54 seats makes 2024 look very interesting… Could the Republicans pickup 6 seats in Arizona, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Montana, West Virginia, Virginia, Wisconsin, and Michigan?

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Trends:

            54 seats makes 2024 look very interesting

            If 2024 doesn't go to the dem, I expect Ms. Harris will overturn the election.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #51

              The Dems will drop Harris like a hot rock. She was a loser to start with. No, 2024 might well be someone like Tim Ryan who has wanted leadership forever. It won’t be anyone in the Biden orbit.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #52

                True dat.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Mik

                  The Dems will drop Harris like a hot rock. She was a loser to start with. No, 2024 might well be someone like Tim Ryan who has wanted leadership forever. It won’t be anyone in the Biden orbit.

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                  George K
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                  #53

                  @Mik said in Trends:

                  someone like Tim Ryan

                  If Ryan loses, are his aspirations halted?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #54

                    I think they take a huge hit.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #55

                      Yep. He could run to get back in the House, but his presidential ambitions, which I think are very real, will be toast for now.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #56

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                        Should it hit 55-45 in favor of the Republicans, I will be curious to see if it says Dead Heat or Slightly Favored…

                        The Brad

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                          Horace
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                          #57

                          I'm assuming the italics indicate the word is strictly defined as a certain range of percentages.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            I'm assuming the italics indicate the word is strictly defined as a certain range of percentages.

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                            @Horace said in Trends:

                            I'm assuming the italics indicate the word is strictly defined as a certain range of percentages.

                            Strictly is a bit debatable.

                            The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  The only things I can think of is a rounding difference or editorial disputes…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • HoraceH Online
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                                    Horace
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                                    Rounding would be my guess, but that indicates they are not careful with their code. They need to round before comparing to their defined ranges. Then there is no discrepancy between the number you see and the number used to get the category. I write scientific software and I know these things from painful experience.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      Rounding would be my guess, but that indicates they are not careful with their code. They need to round before comparing to their defined ranges. Then there is no discrepancy between the number you see and the number used to get the category. I write scientific software and I know these things from painful experience.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @Horace I’m no expert but I doubt it’s rounding. These are Monte Carlo analyses after all. I’m guessing editorial disputes about what to do about the margin of error.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Horace I’m no expert but I doubt it’s rounding. These are Monte Carlo analyses after all. I’m guessing editorial disputes about what to do about the margin of error.

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                                        Horace
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Trends:

                                        @Horace I’m no expert but I doubt it’s rounding. These are Monte Carlo analyses after all. I’m guessing editorial disputes about what to do about the margin of error.

                                        They have a fresh discussion every time about what 54.95% means? The italics seem to indicate a formalized category. I looked on the website but didn’t find definitions for the italicized terms.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          If you folks are talking about the FiveThirtyEight projections and terminology, note that they also have three different “models”, {Lite, Classic, Deluxe}, each with increasingly more human/expert “adjustments” added to polling data. Lots of potential to complicate their definitions for terms like “lean,” “toss up,” and “dead heat.”

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