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The Ukraine war thread

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    The good news is that Germany looks like they may actually be getting serious about their defense forces.

    Putin like to ponder on the glory days of the Soviet Union. Doubt it would come anywhere near that, but I wonder if he wishes to ponder on Operation Unthinkable?

    RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #2780

    @Jolly

    Don’t let it keep you awake.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #2781

      Interesting take on Ukraine.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-has-a-resource-far-more-valuable-than-minerals/ar-AA1CsqM7

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • W Do not disturb
        W Do not disturb
        Wim
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        #2782

        An unexpected scenario?

        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/08/how-trumps-backfiring-trade-war-could-crash-putins-economy-a88654

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #2783

          I’ll take it.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • W Do not disturb
            W Do not disturb
            Wim
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            #2784

            Say thank you when we rob you...

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              #2785

              Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.

              Elbows up!

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              • A Online
                A Online
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                • W Do not disturb
                  W Do not disturb
                  Wim
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                  #2787

                  Either shut up or...

                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/13/ukraine-civilian-deaths-sumy-attack-russia-us-talks-trump-putin-analysis

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Everybody's to blame.

                      Everybody except Trump, presumably.

                      I was only joking

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
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                        #2790

                        Par for the Trump course.

                        He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                          Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                          That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #2792

                            Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              #2793

                              I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.

                              I was only joking

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                                Renauda
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                                #2794

                                @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                                It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.

                                As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.

                                So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                  I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                  Link to video

                                  Link to video

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                    I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                    Link to video

                                    Link to video

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                                    taiwan_girl
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                                    @89th Shhhh! You are exposing the truth.

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Tom-K
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                                        " ⁦@marcorubio is currently defining what it means to abandon absolutely every principle one used to hold dear."

                                        I guess that means Rubio is Presidential timber.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                                          #2799

                                          The ineptitude of Trump and Witkoff:

                                          https://timothyash.substack.com/p/a-fools-guide-to-putin-and-ukraine

                                          Elbows up!

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