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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #2776

    The carrot is of the Trump Administration's own making and imagination. It holds little, if any, credibility outside of a few minds in Washington and Budapest. The Kremlin however immensely enjoys the black humour of the tragicomedy theatre it offers.

    Elbows up!

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #2777

      While Russia is exempted from the current round of Trump tariffs, its stock market is crashing like every other bourse. The drop in oil prices must really hurt.

      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/05/russian-markets-reel-from-trump-tariffs-oil-price-collapse-a88618

      Despite all, don’t expect the Kremlin to become more accommodating or any less bellicose in pursuing its war against Ukraine.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #2778

        He does seem rather committed.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #2779

          The good news is that Germany looks like they may actually be getting serious about their defense forces.

          Putin like to ponder on the glory days of the Soviet Union. Doubt it would come anywhere near that, but I wonder if he wishes to ponder on Operation Unthinkable?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            The good news is that Germany looks like they may actually be getting serious about their defense forces.

            Putin like to ponder on the glory days of the Soviet Union. Doubt it would come anywhere near that, but I wonder if he wishes to ponder on Operation Unthinkable?

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by
            #2780

            @Jolly

            Don’t let it keep you awake.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #2781

              Interesting take on Ukraine.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-has-a-resource-far-more-valuable-than-minerals/ar-AA1CsqM7

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • W Offline
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                Wim
                wrote on last edited by
                #2782

                An unexpected scenario?

                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/08/how-trumps-backfiring-trade-war-could-crash-putins-economy-a88654

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2783

                  I’ll take it.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • W Offline
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                    Wim
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2784

                    Say thank you when we rob you...

                    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #2785

                      Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • A Offline
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                        AndyD
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2786

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                        • W Offline
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                          Wim
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2787

                          Either shut up or...

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/13/ukraine-civilian-deaths-sumy-attack-russia-us-talks-trump-putin-analysis

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2788

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2789

                              Everybody's to blame.

                              Everybody except Trump, presumably.

                              I was only joking

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #2790

                                Par for the Trump course.

                                He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2791

                                  What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                  Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                  That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2792

                                    Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #2793

                                      I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                        Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                        That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #2794

                                        @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                        Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                        That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                                        It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.

                                        As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.

                                        So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          89th
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2795

                                          Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                          I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                          Link to video

                                          Link to video

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