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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #2777

    While Russia is exempted from the current round of Trump tariffs, its stock market is crashing like every other bourse. The drop in oil prices must really hurt.

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/05/russian-markets-reel-from-trump-tariffs-oil-price-collapse-a88618

    Despite all, don’t expect the Kremlin to become more accommodating or any less bellicose in pursuing its war against Ukraine.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2778

      He does seem rather committed.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by Jolly
        #2779

        The good news is that Germany looks like they may actually be getting serious about their defense forces.

        Putin like to ponder on the glory days of the Soviet Union. Doubt it would come anywhere near that, but I wonder if he wishes to ponder on Operation Unthinkable?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          The good news is that Germany looks like they may actually be getting serious about their defense forces.

          Putin like to ponder on the glory days of the Soviet Union. Doubt it would come anywhere near that, but I wonder if he wishes to ponder on Operation Unthinkable?

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #2780

          @Jolly

          Don’t let it keep you awake.

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #2781

            Interesting take on Ukraine.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-has-a-resource-far-more-valuable-than-minerals/ar-AA1CsqM7

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • W Offline
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              Wim
              wrote on last edited by
              #2782

              An unexpected scenario?

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/08/how-trumps-backfiring-trade-war-could-crash-putins-economy-a88654

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #2783

                I’ll take it.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • W Offline
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                  Wim
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2784

                  Say thank you when we rob you...

                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #2785

                    Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.

                    Elbows up!

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                      AndyD
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2786

                      20250321_130934.jpg

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                      • W Offline
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                        Wim
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2787

                        Either shut up or...

                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/13/ukraine-civilian-deaths-sumy-attack-russia-us-talks-trump-putin-analysis

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2788

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2789

                            Everybody's to blame.

                            Everybody except Trump, presumably.

                            I was only joking

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #2790

                              Par for the Trump course.

                              He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • 89th8 Offline
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                                89th
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2791

                                What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2792

                                  Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                    #2793

                                    I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                      Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                      That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #2794

                                      @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                                      Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                                      That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                                      It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.

                                      As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.

                                      So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • 89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2795

                                        Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                        I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                        Link to video

                                        Link to video

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                          I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                          Link to video

                                          Link to video

                                          taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2796

                                          @89th Shhhh! You are exposing the truth.

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