The Ukraine war thread
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Say thank you when we rob you...
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wrote 19 days ago last edited by Renauda 4 Dec 2025, 20:59
Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.
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Everybody's to blame.
Everybody except Trump, presumably.
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wrote 17 days ago last edited by Renauda
Par for the Trump course.
He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.
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What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."
Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.
That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.
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Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.
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wrote 17 days ago last edited by Doctor Phibes
I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.
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What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."
Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.
That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.
wrote 16 days ago last edited by Renauda@89th said in The Ukraine war thread:
What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."
Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.
That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.
It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.
As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.
So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.
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Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).
I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).
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Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).
I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).
Link to video Link to videowrote 13 days ago last edited by@89th Shhhh! You are exposing the truth.
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" @marcorubio is currently defining what it means to abandon absolutely every principle one used to hold dear."
I guess that means Rubio is Presidential timber.
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wrote 13 days ago last edited by Renauda
The ineptitude of Trump and Witkoff:
https://timothyash.substack.com/p/a-fools-guide-to-putin-and-ukraine
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Posted without comment other than let’s see where this takes things…..
Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered to end the war in Ukraine along the current front lines as part of peace talks with the United States, the Financial Times reported Wednesday, citing multiple sources familiar with the negotiations.
During a meeting in St. Petersburg earlier this month, Putin reportedly told Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff that Moscow could drop its claims to parts of four Ukrainian regions still controlled by Kyiv.
Washington has floated its own proposals for ending the conflict, including recognizing Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea and acknowledging its de facto control over occupied areas in Ukraine’s east and south, the FT reported.
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wrote 9 days ago last edited by Tom-K
I'm OK with that. Not honorable or righteous or perfect. But a lot of less deaths and some reasonable peace all around. And it may give DJT a Novel Peace Prize that he well deserves.
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I'm OK with that. Not honorable or righteous or perfect. But a lot of less deaths and some reasonable peace all around. And it may give DJT a Novel Peace Prize that he well deserves.
wrote 9 days ago last edited byYeah, It may be the best deal for a cessation of hostilities in the short term. As long as Putin is at the helm in the Kremlin, people must understand it can be nothing more than a tenuous armistice that the Russians will try to circumvent and undermine by any means of subterfuge possible. This will not at all spell the end the of Kremlin’s imperial aspirations in Eastern Europe.
