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Sokolov's Rach 2

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #11

    Thanks for linking that, Jon. I've been a fan for a long time as well. I love his "Sokolov in Paris" videos. He is such a huge bear of a man, and yes, he can get the quietest parts out so well.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      One of my favorite Sokolov interpretations.

      Link to video

      The control and fresheness is incredible. I believe this is originally a piece for cembalo with two manuals, which explains the permanent crossing.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

        jon-nycJ Offline
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        @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

        Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

        But what do you do after day 4?

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

          But what do you do after day 4?

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          #14

          @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

          But what do you do after day 4?

          Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

          Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

            @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

            I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

            That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

              But what do you do after day 4?

              Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

              Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              #16

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

              But what do you do after day 4?

              Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

              Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

              At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                But what do you do after day 4?

                Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

                At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

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                89th
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                #17

                @jon-nyc great video thanks!

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                  #18

                  01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                  Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                    Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @89th 😆

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                      @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

                      I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

                      That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                      Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                      He sure does.

                      Remember he doesn't like to record, he likes to play in front of live audience.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        SD Tav
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                        A superb performance. I've always liked Sokolov's playing, especially his live performance of the Chopin Preludes. One of the best I've ever heard. I have to admit liking Rubinstein's Rach 2 even though it might lack the passion of Sokolov's performance. I think it's because it was the very first LP I collected of this work. Recorded with Reiner and the Chicago SO.

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