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Sokolov's Rach 2

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #11

    Thanks for linking that, Jon. I've been a fan for a long time as well. I love his "Sokolov in Paris" videos. He is such a huge bear of a man, and yes, he can get the quietest parts out so well.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      One of my favorite Sokolov interpretations.

      Link to video

      The control and fresheness is incredible. I believe this is originally a piece for cembalo with two manuals, which explains the permanent crossing.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

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        @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

        Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

        But what do you do after day 4?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

          But what do you do after day 4?

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          #14

          @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

          But what do you do after day 4?

          Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

          Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

            @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

            I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

            That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

              But what do you do after day 4?

              Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

              Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              #16

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

              But what do you do after day 4?

              Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

              Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

              At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                But what do you do after day 4?

                Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

                At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

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                89th
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                #17

                @jon-nyc great video thanks!

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  #18

                  01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                  Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                    Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @89th 😆

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                      @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

                      I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

                      That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                      Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                      He sure does.

                      Remember he doesn't like to record, he likes to play in front of live audience.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        A superb performance. I've always liked Sokolov's playing, especially his live performance of the Chopin Preludes. One of the best I've ever heard. I have to admit liking Rubinstein's Rach 2 even though it might lack the passion of Sokolov's performance. I think it's because it was the very first LP I collected of this work. Recorded with Reiner and the Chicago SO.

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