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Sokolov's Rach 2

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  • kluursK kluurs

    @jon-nyc Sadly, YouTube will toss in commercials. If you've got access to one of the services that doesn't have commercials - even better. It is a desert island disc for me.

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    @kluurs said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

    @jon-nyc Sadly, YouTube will toss in commercials. If you've got access to one of the services that doesn't have commercials - even better. It is a desert island disc for me.

    I assume you’re talking about the Sokolov? And you have the CD?

    It truly is worth watching just to see his hands.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Thanks for linking that, Jon. I've been a fan for a long time as well. I love his "Sokolov in Paris" videos. He is such a huge bear of a man, and yes, he can get the quietest parts out so well.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        One of my favorite Sokolov interpretations.

        Link to video

        The control and fresheness is incredible. I believe this is originally a piece for cembalo with two manuals, which explains the permanent crossing.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

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          @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

          But what do you do after day 4?

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

            But what do you do after day 4?

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            @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

            But what do you do after day 4?

            Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

            Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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              Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

              @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

              I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

              That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                But what do you do after day 4?

                Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                But what do you do after day 4?

                Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

                At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                  @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                  @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                  Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                  But what do you do after day 4?

                  Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                  Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

                  At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

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                  @jon-nyc great video thanks!

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                    Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                      01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                      Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                      @89th 😆

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                        @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

                        I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

                        That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

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                        @george-k said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                        Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                        He sure does.

                        Remember he doesn't like to record, he likes to play in front of live audience.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          A superb performance. I've always liked Sokolov's playing, especially his live performance of the Chopin Preludes. One of the best I've ever heard. I have to admit liking Rubinstein's Rach 2 even though it might lack the passion of Sokolov's performance. I think it's because it was the very first LP I collected of this work. Recorded with Reiner and the Chicago SO.

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