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Sokolov's Rach 2

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  • kluursK kluurs

    @jon-nyc Sadly, YouTube will toss in commercials. If you've got access to one of the services that doesn't have commercials - even better. It is a desert island disc for me.

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    @kluurs said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

    @jon-nyc Sadly, YouTube will toss in commercials. If you've got access to one of the services that doesn't have commercials - even better. It is a desert island disc for me.

    I assume you’re talking about the Sokolov? And you have the CD?

    It truly is worth watching just to see his hands.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Thanks for linking that, Jon. I've been a fan for a long time as well. I love his "Sokolov in Paris" videos. He is such a huge bear of a man, and yes, he can get the quietest parts out so well.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        One of my favorite Sokolov interpretations.

        Link to video

        The control and fresheness is incredible. I believe this is originally a piece for cembalo with two manuals, which explains the permanent crossing.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

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          @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

          Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

          But what do you do after day 4?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

            But what do you do after day 4?

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            @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

            But what do you do after day 4?

            Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

            Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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              Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

              @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

              I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

              That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                But what do you do after day 4?

                Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                But what do you do after day 4?

                Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

                At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                  @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                  @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                  Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

                  But what do you do after day 4?

                  Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

                  Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

                  At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

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                  @jon-nyc great video thanks!

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                    01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                    Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                      Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                      @89th 😆

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                        @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

                        I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

                        That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

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                        @george-k said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                        Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                        He sure does.

                        Remember he doesn't like to record, he likes to play in front of live audience.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          A superb performance. I've always liked Sokolov's playing, especially his live performance of the Chopin Preludes. One of the best I've ever heard. I have to admit liking Rubinstein's Rach 2 even though it might lack the passion of Sokolov's performance. I think it's because it was the very first LP I collected of this work. Recorded with Reiner and the Chicago SO.

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