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Sokolov's Rach 2

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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    #12

    One of my favorite Sokolov interpretations.

    Link to video

    The control and fresheness is incredible. I believe this is originally a piece for cembalo with two manuals, which explains the permanent crossing.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

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      @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

      Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

      But what do you do after day 4?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

        Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

        But what do you do after day 4?

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        @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

        @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

        Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

        But what do you do after day 4?

        Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

        Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

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          Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

          @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

          I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

          That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

            But what do you do after day 4?

            Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

            Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

            Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

            But what do you do after day 4?

            Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

            Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

            At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @jon-nyc said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              @klaus said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

              Rachmaninoff concerti are excellent for sightreading practice.

              But what do you do after day 4?

              Spend another (less enjoyable) four days on Opus Clavicembalisticum.

              Top it off with a day of "Vexations".

              At this point in my piano journey it would be unfair to consider them sight reads.

              89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              @jon-nyc great video thanks!

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
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                #18

                01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                • 89th8 89th

                  01655C8A-9538-4244-9871-5AC1DE3E11C2.jpeg

                  Look, this is what The Coffee Room (TCR) looked like way back before we destroyed the place. We used to play a Rach concerto for fun!

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                  George K
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                  @89th 😆

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                    @Klaus , yes. It's fantastic, isn't it.

                    I remember reading criticisms of the Prokofiev 8 in that concert. The "Agitato" was too slow, many complained. But, the deliberateness, and power was overwhelming.

                    That's the word: deliberate. Everything he does is like that. His fingers like pistons.

                    jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @george-k said in Sokolov's Rach 2:

                    Does he hit a couple of clunkers at 31:34 or so (using the YouTube timer, not the onscreen timer)?

                    He sure does.

                    Remember he doesn't like to record, he likes to play in front of live audience.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      A superb performance. I've always liked Sokolov's playing, especially his live performance of the Chopin Preludes. One of the best I've ever heard. I have to admit liking Rubinstein's Rach 2 even though it might lack the passion of Sokolov's performance. I think it's because it was the very first LP I collected of this work. Recorded with Reiner and the Chicago SO.

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