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The Ukraine war thread

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    AndyD
    wrote last edited by AndyD
    #2946

    I can see this ending like Korea. Divided, one western area a part of prosperous EU & NATO influence, with the Eastern area Russian.

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      #2947

      I think Putin has realized, to borrow a phrase, that Trump has no cards. Or rather none he’s willing to play. I wonder how much Putin can continue to play him before he really gets pissed. There were signs he’d reached his full of it last month, but now Trump seems willing to put up with more.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        #2948

        Yes; if Trump joins the game it'll be a surprise to me. He seems to have sat back and watch the players continue so far.

        Putin is ex KGB, speaks English, and will be a master at handling people.
        Trump will have been told repeatedly, perhaps he knows and is happy to wait see a while longer what transpires from the N. Koreans etc

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          #2949

          Oh my sides.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            Renauda
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            #2950

            I seem to recall reading, on more than one occasion, that in 1948 Tito refused a similar invitational summons from Stalin:

            An adviser to Volodymyr Zelensky has told BBC News that Ukraine "immediately rejected" Vladimir Putin's suggestion that the two leaders should meet in Moscow.

            https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cz93ve1p952t?post=asset%3A1281df55-06c0-43d5-b23d-d599b7cd956b#post

            Elbows up!

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              Wim
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                #2952

                @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Remember Melnikov.

                Which one? You’ll have to jog my memory. Only the famous Constructivist architect comes to my mind at the moment.

                Elbows up!

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                  @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Remember Melnikov.

                  Which one? You’ll have to jog my memory. Only the famous Constructivist architect comes to my mind at the moment.

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                  Wim
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                  #2953

                  @Renauda Apologies, I blundered. Consider what I wrote as non-existent.

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                    Renauda
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                    #2954

                    No problem.

                    In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:

                    “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

                    …..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.

                    …..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.

                    https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/58597

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      No problem.

                      In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:

                      “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

                      …..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.

                      …..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.

                      https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/58597

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #2955

                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

                      2-bit thug.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

                        2-bit thug.

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                        #2956

                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        two-bit thug

                        You may very well believe that, I couldn’t possibly comment.

                        Elbows up!

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