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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #2950

    I seem to recall reading, on more than one occasion, that in 1948 Tito refused a similar invitational summons from Stalin:

    An adviser to Volodymyr Zelensky has told BBC News that Ukraine "immediately rejected" Vladimir Putin's suggestion that the two leaders should meet in Moscow.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cz93ve1p952t?post=asset%3A1281df55-06c0-43d5-b23d-d599b7cd956b#post

    Elbows up!

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        @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Remember Melnikov.

        Which one? You’ll have to jog my memory. Only the famous Constructivist architect comes to my mind at the moment.

        Elbows up!

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          @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Remember Melnikov.

          Which one? You’ll have to jog my memory. Only the famous Constructivist architect comes to my mind at the moment.

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          @Renauda Apologies, I blundered. Consider what I wrote as non-existent.

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            #2954

            No problem.

            In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:

            “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

            …..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.

            …..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.

            https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/58597

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              No problem.

              In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:

              “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

              …..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.

              …..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.

              https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/58597

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              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

              2-bit thug.

              I was only joking

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                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                “Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”

                2-bit thug.

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                #2956

                @Doctor-Phibes

                two-bit thug

                You may very well believe that, I couldn’t possibly comment.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  #2957

                  This man gets it. Wish he were President or Secretary of Defense War right now:

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cq65410424qo

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    #2958

                    He does and I do wish he was. We just can’t let Putin succeed in the vain hope his successors will be any better.

                    It’s not just Russia that needs to see resolve. Xi is watching carefully as well.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #2959

                      Maybe it's inherited.

                      Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Ottoman Sultan by Ilya Repin, 1880-1891.

                      The painting is based on the legend of Cossacks sending an insulting reply to an ultimatum from the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Mehmed IV in 1676. The Zaporozhian Cossacks inhabited the lands around the lower Dnieper River in Ukraine and had defeated Ottoman Empire forces in battle. However, Mehmed demanded that the Cossacks submit to Ottoman rule. The Cossacks wrote a letter full of insults and profanities. The painting exhibits the Cossacks' finding pleasure in striving to come up with ever more base vulgarities.

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                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Maybe it's inherited.

                        Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Ottoman Sultan by Ilya Repin, 1880-1891.

                        The painting is based on the legend of Cossacks sending an insulting reply to an ultimatum from the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Mehmed IV in 1676. The Zaporozhian Cossacks inhabited the lands around the lower Dnieper River in Ukraine and had defeated Ottoman Empire forces in battle. However, Mehmed demanded that the Cossacks submit to Ottoman rule. The Cossacks wrote a letter full of insults and profanities. The painting exhibits the Cossacks' finding pleasure in striving to come up with ever more base vulgarities.

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                        Axtremus
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                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                        Let's brainstorm for insults.
                        Insult war room in 5, order pizzas.
                        #insultathon
                        #insultarama
                        Oh, for the remote folks, WebEx, not Zoom, on account of profanity filter.

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