The Ukraine war thread
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Yes; if Trump joins the game it'll be a surprise to me. He seems to have sat back and watch the players continue so far.
Putin is ex KGB, speaks English, and will be a master at handling people.
Trump will have been told repeatedly, perhaps he knows and is happy to wait see a while longer what transpires from the N. Koreans etc -
I seem to recall reading, on more than one occasion, that in 1948 Tito refused a similar invitational summons from Stalin:
An adviser to Volodymyr Zelensky has told BBC News that Ukraine "immediately rejected" Vladimir Putin's suggestion that the two leaders should meet in Moscow.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cz93ve1p952t?post=asset%3A1281df55-06c0-43d5-b23d-d599b7cd956b#post
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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Remember Melnikov.
Which one? You’ll have to jog my memory. Only the famous Constructivist architect comes to my mind at the moment.
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No problem.
In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
…..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.
…..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.
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No problem.
In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
…..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.
…..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
2-bit thug.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
2-bit thug.
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This man gets it. Wish he were President or Secretary of
DefenseWar right now: -
Maybe it's inherited.
Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Ottoman Sultan by Ilya Repin, 1880-1891.
The painting is based on the legend of Cossacks sending an insulting reply to an ultimatum from the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Mehmed IV in 1676. The Zaporozhian Cossacks inhabited the lands around the lower Dnieper River in Ukraine and had defeated Ottoman Empire forces in battle. However, Mehmed demanded that the Cossacks submit to Ottoman rule. The Cossacks wrote a letter full of insults and profanities. The painting exhibits the Cossacks' finding pleasure in striving to come up with ever more base vulgarities.
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Maybe it's inherited.
Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Ottoman Sultan by Ilya Repin, 1880-1891.
The painting is based on the legend of Cossacks sending an insulting reply to an ultimatum from the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Mehmed IV in 1676. The Zaporozhian Cossacks inhabited the lands around the lower Dnieper River in Ukraine and had defeated Ottoman Empire forces in battle. However, Mehmed demanded that the Cossacks submit to Ottoman rule. The Cossacks wrote a letter full of insults and profanities. The painting exhibits the Cossacks' finding pleasure in striving to come up with ever more base vulgarities.
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The comparison is not inaccurate:
United States President Donald Trump’s latest wheeze for imposing further sanctions on Russia comes with a jaw-dropping catch: NATO must first impose tariffs of 50% to 100% on China.
On the surface, it sounds like a bold move that takes on two adversaries in one stroke. But scratch it, and what you find is less Winston Churchill and more Baldrick from the farcical BBC sitcom Blackadder — a “cunning plan” so hopelessly self-defeating that only its author could think it brilliant.
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@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Either he is seeing the situation for what it really is or he is setting the stage to normalize dilplomatic and trade relations with Russia while at the same time sell weapons and military technical assistance to Ukraine through NATO as intermediary. Wash his hands of the diplomatic effort to bring about an armistice. Essentially become the Pontius Pilate in the game.
