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    jon-nyc
    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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    We gave them the 5,000 lb version. But that won't do the job. The MOP will, but it weighs as much as a cement mixer. Only the B2 can deliver it. Only the US operates the B2.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
      #290

      Israel's option would be a land-based special forces operation.

      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        AndyD
        wrote 28 days ago last edited by AndyD
        #291

        So give them an old B2,
        or a lift 😆

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          jon-nyc
          wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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          I honestly think we should delete Fordo for them. For the whole world, really.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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            It's almost worth it just to see Tulsi resign.

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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              28 days ago

              Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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              @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

              I’m not sure that would be the case. Fordow is buried so deeply that I would think the MOP would likely result in the facility collapsing in on itself trapping the uranium, not blasting it outward.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                Seems to me that the commando raid, blow it up from inside would be safer. But I really don't give a shit if Qom becomes uninhabitable for a few thousand years.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  Mik
                  wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                  The international outcry about that would last even longer.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                    Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      AndyD
                      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                      Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

                      When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

                      For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote 28 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                        #299

                        The exact size of the military presence at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is not publicly known, but based on defense analyses and satellite imagery, experts estimate:

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                        🇮🇷 Estimated Military Presence at Fordow

                        🔹 Permanent On-Site Security
                        • Likely 200–400 IRGC personnel, including:
                        • Facility guards
                        • Technical security teams
                        • Command staff and rapid response elements

                        These forces are probably drawn from the IRGC Quds and Aerospace forces, with access tightly controlled.

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                        🔹 Perimeter & Area Security
                        • Additional 500–1,000 troops may be stationed at nearby IRGC bases that provide regional security for Fordow and Qom
                        • Likely include:
                        • Motorized infantry
                        • Air defense crews
                        • Logistics and support units

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                        🔹 Air Defense Units
                        • Fordow is protected by dedicated air defense batteries:
                        • S-300PMU-2 system (mobile or semi-permanent)
                        • Iranian equivalents (e.g., Bavar-373, Khordad-15)
                        • These systems require dozens to hundreds of personnel to operate, maintain, and coordinate radar and missile systems

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                        🔹 Total Military Footprint (Broad Estimate)
                        Component
                        Estimated Personnel
                        On-site security: 200–400
                        Regional IRGC presence: 500–1,000
                        Air defense teams: 100–300
                        Total: 800–1,700 (approx.)

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                          Whatever the normal staffing I’d imagine it’s a lot more this week.

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            Horace
                            wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                            I'm surprised they haven't opened a day care and a hospital on the ground floor.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              bachophile
                              wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                              Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                I was thinking this morning that it was weird that the WH leaked that there was going to be a statement from Trump last night, but ultimately there wasn't.

                                But then I remembered yesterday was Tuesday....

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  28 days ago

                                  Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                  @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                    I just hope they weren't carrying weapons-grade uranium.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                      Yes. That's the nightmare. And consistent with Iran's recent rhetoric.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        bachophile
                                        wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                        Alert from home front. Incoming….

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote 28 days ago last edited by
                                          #308

                                          Luke Skywalker to the rescue?

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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