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  • A Online
    A Online
    AndyD
    wrote last edited by
    #288

    I sincerely hope someone takes out the threat of a nuclear ballistic missile capable Iran.
    We've already got N Korea, that's more than enough.

    Just give Israel a few of those bunker buster bombs if you ain't going to step up.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote last edited by
      #289

      We gave them the 5,000 lb version. But that won't do the job. The MOP will, but it weighs as much as a cement mixer. Only the B2 can deliver it. Only the US operates the B2.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        jon-nyc
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        #290

        Israel's option would be a land-based special forces operation.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • A Online
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          AndyD
          wrote last edited by AndyD
          #291

          So give them an old B2,
          or a lift 😆

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote last edited by
            #292

            I honestly think we should delete Fordo for them. For the whole world, really.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by
              #293

              It's almost worth it just to see Tulsi resign.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • MikM Mik

                Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote last edited by
                #294

                @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                I’m not sure that would be the case. Fordow is buried so deeply that I would think the MOP would likely result in the facility collapsing in on itself trapping the uranium, not blasting it outward.

                The Brad

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote last edited by
                  #295

                  Seems to me that the commando raid, blow it up from inside would be safer. But I really don't give a shit if Qom becomes uninhabitable for a few thousand years.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote last edited by
                    #296

                    The international outcry about that would last even longer.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #297

                      Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • A Online
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                        AndyD
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                        #298

                        Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

                        When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

                        For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                          #299

                          The exact size of the military presence at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is not publicly known, but based on defense analyses and satellite imagery, experts estimate:

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                          🇮🇷 Estimated Military Presence at Fordow

                          🔹 Permanent On-Site Security
                          • Likely 200–400 IRGC personnel, including:
                          • Facility guards
                          • Technical security teams
                          • Command staff and rapid response elements

                          These forces are probably drawn from the IRGC Quds and Aerospace forces, with access tightly controlled.

                          ⸻

                          🔹 Perimeter & Area Security
                          • Additional 500–1,000 troops may be stationed at nearby IRGC bases that provide regional security for Fordow and Qom
                          • Likely include:
                          • Motorized infantry
                          • Air defense crews
                          • Logistics and support units

                          ⸻

                          🔹 Air Defense Units
                          • Fordow is protected by dedicated air defense batteries:
                          • S-300PMU-2 system (mobile or semi-permanent)
                          • Iranian equivalents (e.g., Bavar-373, Khordad-15)
                          • These systems require dozens to hundreds of personnel to operate, maintain, and coordinate radar and missile systems

                          ⸻

                          🔹 Total Military Footprint (Broad Estimate)
                          Component
                          Estimated Personnel
                          On-site security: 200–400
                          Regional IRGC presence: 500–1,000
                          Air defense teams: 100–300
                          Total: 800–1,700 (approx.)

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote last edited by
                            #300

                            Whatever the normal staffing I’d imagine it’s a lot more this week.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Horace
                              wrote last edited by
                              #301

                              I'm surprised they haven't opened a day care and a hospital on the ground floor.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                bachophile
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                                #302

                                Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #303

                                  I was thinking this morning that it was weird that the WH leaked that there was going to be a statement from Trump last night, but ultimately there wasn't.

                                  But then I remembered yesterday was Tuesday....

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • bachophileB bachophile

                                    Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #304

                                    @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #305

                                      I just hope they weren't carrying weapons-grade uranium.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #306

                                        Yes. That's the nightmare. And consistent with Iran's recent rhetoric.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #307

                                          Alert from home front. Incoming….

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