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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #289

    We gave them the 5,000 lb version. But that won't do the job. The MOP will, but it weighs as much as a cement mixer. Only the B2 can deliver it. Only the US operates the B2.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #290

      Israel's option would be a land-based special forces operation.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        AndyD
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        #291

        So give them an old B2,
        or a lift 😆

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #292

          I honestly think we should delete Fordo for them. For the whole world, really.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
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            It's almost worth it just to see Tulsi resign.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • MikM Mik

              Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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              LuFins Dad
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              #294

              @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

              I’m not sure that would be the case. Fordow is buried so deeply that I would think the MOP would likely result in the facility collapsing in on itself trapping the uranium, not blasting it outward.

              The Brad

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                #295

                Seems to me that the commando raid, blow it up from inside would be safer. But I really don't give a shit if Qom becomes uninhabitable for a few thousand years.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #296

                  The international outcry about that would last even longer.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
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                    #297

                    Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • A Offline
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                      #298

                      Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

                      When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

                      For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #299

                        The exact size of the military presence at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is not publicly known, but based on defense analyses and satellite imagery, experts estimate:

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                        🇮🇷 Estimated Military Presence at Fordow

                        🔹 Permanent On-Site Security
                        • Likely 200–400 IRGC personnel, including:
                        • Facility guards
                        • Technical security teams
                        • Command staff and rapid response elements

                        These forces are probably drawn from the IRGC Quds and Aerospace forces, with access tightly controlled.

                        ⸻

                        🔹 Perimeter & Area Security
                        • Additional 500–1,000 troops may be stationed at nearby IRGC bases that provide regional security for Fordow and Qom
                        • Likely include:
                        • Motorized infantry
                        • Air defense crews
                        • Logistics and support units

                        ⸻

                        🔹 Air Defense Units
                        • Fordow is protected by dedicated air defense batteries:
                        • S-300PMU-2 system (mobile or semi-permanent)
                        • Iranian equivalents (e.g., Bavar-373, Khordad-15)
                        • These systems require dozens to hundreds of personnel to operate, maintain, and coordinate radar and missile systems

                        ⸻

                        🔹 Total Military Footprint (Broad Estimate)
                        Component
                        Estimated Personnel
                        On-site security: 200–400
                        Regional IRGC presence: 500–1,000
                        Air defense teams: 100–300
                        Total: 800–1,700 (approx.)

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #300

                          Whatever the normal staffing I’d imagine it’s a lot more this week.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            #301

                            I'm surprised they haven't opened a day care and a hospital on the ground floor.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              bachophile
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                              #302

                              Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
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                                I was thinking this morning that it was weird that the WH leaked that there was going to be a statement from Trump last night, but ultimately there wasn't.

                                But then I remembered yesterday was Tuesday....

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • bachophileB bachophile

                                  Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
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                                  @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #305

                                    I just hope they weren't carrying weapons-grade uranium.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
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                                      Yes. That's the nightmare. And consistent with Iran's recent rhetoric.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        #307

                                        Alert from home front. Incoming….

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #308

                                          Luke Skywalker to the rescue?

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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