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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #293

    It's almost worth it just to see Tulsi resign.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • MikM Mik

      Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #294

      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

      I’m not sure that would be the case. Fordow is buried so deeply that I would think the MOP would likely result in the facility collapsing in on itself trapping the uranium, not blasting it outward.

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        Seems to me that the commando raid, blow it up from inside would be safer. But I really don't give a shit if Qom becomes uninhabitable for a few thousand years.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          The international outcry about that would last even longer.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #297

            Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • A Offline
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              AndyD
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              #298

              Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

              When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

              For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #299

                The exact size of the military presence at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is not publicly known, but based on defense analyses and satellite imagery, experts estimate:

                ⸻

                🇮🇷 Estimated Military Presence at Fordow

                🔹 Permanent On-Site Security
                • Likely 200–400 IRGC personnel, including:
                • Facility guards
                • Technical security teams
                • Command staff and rapid response elements

                These forces are probably drawn from the IRGC Quds and Aerospace forces, with access tightly controlled.

                ⸻

                🔹 Perimeter & Area Security
                • Additional 500–1,000 troops may be stationed at nearby IRGC bases that provide regional security for Fordow and Qom
                • Likely include:
                • Motorized infantry
                • Air defense crews
                • Logistics and support units

                ⸻

                🔹 Air Defense Units
                • Fordow is protected by dedicated air defense batteries:
                • S-300PMU-2 system (mobile or semi-permanent)
                • Iranian equivalents (e.g., Bavar-373, Khordad-15)
                • These systems require dozens to hundreds of personnel to operate, maintain, and coordinate radar and missile systems

                ⸻

                🔹 Total Military Footprint (Broad Estimate)
                Component
                Estimated Personnel
                On-site security: 200–400
                Regional IRGC presence: 500–1,000
                Air defense teams: 100–300
                Total: 800–1,700 (approx.)

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #300

                  Whatever the normal staffing I’d imagine it’s a lot more this week.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #301

                    I'm surprised they haven't opened a day care and a hospital on the ground floor.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • bachophileB Offline
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                      bachophile
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                      #302

                      Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                        I was thinking this morning that it was weird that the WH leaked that there was going to be a statement from Trump last night, but ultimately there wasn't.

                        But then I remembered yesterday was Tuesday....

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • bachophileB bachophile

                          Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #304

                          @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                          Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #305

                            I just hope they weren't carrying weapons-grade uranium.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
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                              Yes. That's the nightmare. And consistent with Iran's recent rhetoric.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Alert from home front. Incoming….

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #308

                                  Luke Skywalker to the rescue?

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    Hey @bachophile - what do you do if you’re in surgery and one of these alerts comes in? Just hope for the best?

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      bachophile
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                                      #310

                                      Intercepted. Definitely see much less missiles since the first two nights. I guess the hunting expeditions are working.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #311

                                        Fewer.

                                        /AquaLetifer

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Hey @bachophile - what do you do if you’re in surgery and one of these alerts comes in? Just hope for the best?

                                          bachophileB Offline
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                                          bachophile
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                                          #312

                                          @jon-nyc great question

                                          My hospital (Sheba ) has 10 ORs underground for emergencies. So we just keep on working. Sometimes we don’t even know there are alerts until they are over.

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