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  • J Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 02:56 last edited by
    #285

    Stop selling. I’m already supportive of US involvement.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • J Online
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:21 last edited by
      #286

      This is in Tel Aviv today.

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        Mik
        wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:30 last edited by
        #287

        Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          AndyD
          wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:50 last edited by
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          I sincerely hope someone takes out the threat of a nuclear ballistic missile capable Iran.
          We've already got N Korea, that's more than enough.

          Just give Israel a few of those bunker buster bombs if you ain't going to step up.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:51 last edited by
            #289

            We gave them the 5,000 lb version. But that won't do the job. The MOP will, but it weighs as much as a cement mixer. Only the B2 can deliver it. Only the US operates the B2.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:53 last edited by
              #290

              Israel's option would be a land-based special forces operation.

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                AndyD
                wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:53 last edited by AndyD
                #291

                So give them an old B2,
                or a lift 😆

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 13:54 last edited by
                  #292

                  I honestly think we should delete Fordo for them. For the whole world, really.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:15 last edited by
                    #293

                    It's almost worth it just to see Tulsi resign.

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                    • M Mik
                      18 Jun 2025, 13:30

                      Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:18 last edited by
                      #294

                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                      I’m not sure that would be the case. Fordow is buried so deeply that I would think the MOP would likely result in the facility collapsing in on itself trapping the uranium, not blasting it outward.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:24 last edited by
                        #295

                        Seems to me that the commando raid, blow it up from inside would be safer. But I really don't give a shit if Qom becomes uninhabitable for a few thousand years.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:28 last edited by
                          #296

                          The international outcry about that would last even longer.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:31 last edited by
                            #297

                            Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

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                              AndyD
                              wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:37 last edited by
                              #298

                              Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

                              When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

                              For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 14:47 last edited by jon-nyc
                                #299

                                The exact size of the military presence at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is not publicly known, but based on defense analyses and satellite imagery, experts estimate:

                                ⸻

                                🇮🇷 Estimated Military Presence at Fordow

                                🔹 Permanent On-Site Security
                                • Likely 200–400 IRGC personnel, including:
                                • Facility guards
                                • Technical security teams
                                • Command staff and rapid response elements

                                These forces are probably drawn from the IRGC Quds and Aerospace forces, with access tightly controlled.

                                ⸻

                                🔹 Perimeter & Area Security
                                • Additional 500–1,000 troops may be stationed at nearby IRGC bases that provide regional security for Fordow and Qom
                                • Likely include:
                                • Motorized infantry
                                • Air defense crews
                                • Logistics and support units

                                ⸻

                                🔹 Air Defense Units
                                • Fordow is protected by dedicated air defense batteries:
                                • S-300PMU-2 system (mobile or semi-permanent)
                                • Iranian equivalents (e.g., Bavar-373, Khordad-15)
                                • These systems require dozens to hundreds of personnel to operate, maintain, and coordinate radar and missile systems

                                ⸻

                                🔹 Total Military Footprint (Broad Estimate)
                                Component
                                Estimated Personnel
                                On-site security: 200–400
                                Regional IRGC presence: 500–1,000
                                Air defense teams: 100–300
                                Total: 800–1,700 (approx.)

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 15:00 last edited by
                                  #300

                                  Whatever the normal staffing I’d imagine it’s a lot more this week.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 15:12 last edited by
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                                    I'm surprised they haven't opened a day care and a hospital on the ground floor.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 15:12 last edited by
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                                      Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 15:45 last edited by
                                        #303

                                        I was thinking this morning that it was weird that the WH leaked that there was going to be a statement from Trump last night, but ultimately there wasn't.

                                        But then I remembered yesterday was Tuesday....

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                                          18 Jun 2025, 15:12

                                          Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 15:57 last edited by
                                          #304

                                          @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                          Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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