UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.
I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice
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@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.
I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice
If your threshold of being wrong is "people who haven't personally assassinated a health care CEO, talking about the problems with private health insurance", you will safely be wrong forever. Make yourself comfortable!
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So 2 months ago, I was talking to a coworker from another store about our UHC Insurance. He proceeds to tell me that his cardiologist had recommended he get stints at his latest visit, but UHC had turned it down. We commiserated and called those guys every name under the sun that he was going to have to fight them.
I talked to him a week later and he told me that he found out that they denied it because the bloodwork, diagnostics, and everything else submitted did not merit a stint. That he looked perfectly healthy. He got a second opinion from another cardiologist that confirmed he was fine. He went back to the first Cardiologist, who said “Yeah, they’re right, you really don’t need it, but it wouldn’t hurt, either”…
Sometimes the insurance companies are the ones protecting us…
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@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.
That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.
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@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Jesus.
Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.
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@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Jesus.
The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.
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I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.
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The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.
The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before…
Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…