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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

    I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

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    Horace
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

    I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

    If your threshold of being wrong is "people who haven't personally assassinated a health care CEO, talking about the problems with private health insurance", you will safely be wrong forever. Make yourself comfortable!

    Education is extremely important.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

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      Horace
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      @89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

      Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

      Yeah but he's of sound body, amirite. Nohomo.

      Education is extremely important.

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        LuFins Dad
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        So 2 months ago, I was talking to a coworker from another store about our UHC Insurance. He proceeds to tell me that his cardiologist had recommended he get stints at his latest visit, but UHC had turned it down. We commiserated and called those guys every name under the sun that he was going to have to fight them.

        I talked to him a week later and he told me that he found out that they denied it because the bloodwork, diagnostics, and everything else submitted did not merit a stint. That he looked perfectly healthy. He got a second opinion from another cardiologist that confirmed he was fine. He went back to the first Cardiologist, who said “Yeah, they’re right, you really don’t need it, but it wouldn’t hurt, either”…

        Sometimes the insurance companies are the ones protecting us…

        The Brad

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        • MikM Offline
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          We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

            That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.

            Please love yourself.

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              #178

              Jesus.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Jesus.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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                Aqua Letifer
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                #179

                @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                Jesus.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

                If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

                Please love yourself.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Jesus.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #180

                  @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                  Jesus.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                  The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    The Brad

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #182

                      Where was that?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Where was that?

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                        George K
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                        @jon-nyc

                        https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-road-signs-disturbing-message-sparks-investigation-amid-ceo-shooting-aftermath-highway-99-one-less-ceo-many-more-to-go-lake-union-wsdot-sdot

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Horace
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                          I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #186

                              Seen on twitter:

                              Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.

                                    The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before… image.jpg

                                    Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…

                                    The Brad

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

                                      The Brad

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                                        I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                                          The Brad

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