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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #169

    Another example. Paywalled, but you get the point.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

      Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

      None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #170

      @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

      None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

      I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

      I was only joking

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #171

        It could still fizzle out in a few days.

        But I suspect the trial will keep interest alive, especially if he decides to become a martyr and yell a lot in the courtroom.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • 89th8 Online
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          89th
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          #172

          Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

            I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

            HoraceH Online
            HoraceH Online
            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #173

            @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

            I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

            If your threshold of being wrong is "people who haven't personally assassinated a health care CEO, talking about the problems with private health insurance", you will safely be wrong forever. Make yourself comfortable!

            Education is extremely important.

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            • 89th8 89th

              Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

              HoraceH Online
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #174

              @89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

              Yeah but he's of sound body, amirite. Nohomo.

              Education is extremely important.

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                LuFins Dad
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                #175

                So 2 months ago, I was talking to a coworker from another store about our UHC Insurance. He proceeds to tell me that his cardiologist had recommended he get stints at his latest visit, but UHC had turned it down. We commiserated and called those guys every name under the sun that he was going to have to fight them.

                I talked to him a week later and he told me that he found out that they denied it because the bloodwork, diagnostics, and everything else submitted did not merit a stint. That he looked perfectly healthy. He got a second opinion from another cardiologist that confirmed he was fine. He went back to the first Cardiologist, who said “Yeah, they’re right, you really don’t need it, but it wouldn’t hurt, either”…

                Sometimes the insurance companies are the ones protecting us…

                The Brad

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  #176

                  We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #177

                    @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

                    That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #178

                      Jesus.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Jesus.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #179

                        @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Jesus.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                        Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

                        If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Jesus.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                          jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #180

                          @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          Jesus.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                          The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            LuFins Dad
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                            alt text

                            The Brad

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
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                              #182

                              Where was that?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Where was that?

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                                George K
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                                @jon-nyc

                                https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-road-signs-disturbing-message-sparks-investigation-amid-ceo-shooting-aftermath-highway-99-one-less-ceo-many-more-to-go-lake-union-wsdot-sdot

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Online
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                                  Horace
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                                  #184

                                  I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Online
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #185

                                    Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #186

                                      Seen on twitter:

                                      Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        Horace
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                                        I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Online
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                                          Horace
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                                          I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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