UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot

[Mik]

We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.

[Mik]

Jesus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Jesus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

[jon-nyc]

@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Jesus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.

[LuFins Dad]

[jon-nyc]

Where was that?

[George K]

@jon-nyc

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[Horace]

I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

[Horace]

Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

[jon-nyc]

Seen on twitter:

Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

[Horace]

I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

[Horace]

I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

[LuFins Dad]

The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.

The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before…

Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…

[LuFins Dad]

Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

[Horace]

I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.

[LuFins Dad]

The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

Obamacare or something similar, is here to stay, and I didn't hear anybody campaign on any promises to just dismantle it. Trump talks about replacing it "only if he has something better". Whatever we do, won't necessarily be a temporary thing that gets reversed every four years.

[taiwan_girl]

@LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

Yup.

I had some medication in the US that was about USD$1/pill and by prescription.

In Thailand, I would just walk into a pharmacy and buy it and it was about 20% of the cost.

[George K]