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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    There really is two sides to every story. While I wholeheartedly agree that our current insurance system is busted, I hardy believe these caricatures of evil insurance executives living large off the pain and suffering of their clients. It is far more complex than the cartoonish image of the monopoly man with bags of cash…

    I have UHC. I am constantly battling a stupid issue where our in network PCP claims are denied because the billing goes through a 3rd party and it confuses them. Nobody in the system that we can reach can make a notation for it, so we go through the same rigamarole every time. That’s not greed, that’s ineptitude and inefficiency.

    That’s far more common and far more damaging than greed.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    There really is two sides to every story. While I wholeheartedly agree that our current insurance system is busted, I hardy believe these caricatures of evil insurance executives living large off the pain and suffering of their clients. It is far more complex than the cartoonish image of the monopoly man with bags of cash…

    Of course it's more complex than mobthink. Isn't that obvious? Everything always is.

    Please love yourself.

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      Dreamy...

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

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        @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

        Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

        None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          Another example. Paywalled, but you get the point.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

            None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

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            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

            I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

            I was only joking

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              It could still fizzle out in a few days.

              But I suspect the trial will keep interest alive, especially if he decides to become a martyr and yell a lot in the courtroom.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                  None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

                  I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                  @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                  None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

                  I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

                  If your threshold of being wrong is "people who haven't personally assassinated a health care CEO, talking about the problems with private health insurance", you will safely be wrong forever. Make yourself comfortable!

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

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                    @89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

                    Yeah but he's of sound body, amirite. Nohomo.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      So 2 months ago, I was talking to a coworker from another store about our UHC Insurance. He proceeds to tell me that his cardiologist had recommended he get stints at his latest visit, but UHC had turned it down. We commiserated and called those guys every name under the sun that he was going to have to fight them.

                      I talked to him a week later and he told me that he found out that they denied it because the bloodwork, diagnostics, and everything else submitted did not merit a stint. That he looked perfectly healthy. He got a second opinion from another cardiologist that confirmed he was fine. He went back to the first Cardiologist, who said “Yeah, they’re right, you really don’t need it, but it wouldn’t hurt, either”…

                      Sometimes the insurance companies are the ones protecting us…

                      The Brad

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                        We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

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                          @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

                          That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Jesus.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Jesus.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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                              @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              Jesus.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                              Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

                              If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Jesus.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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                                @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                Jesus.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                                The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  The Brad

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                                    Where was that?

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Where was that?

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                                      @jon-nyc

                                      https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-road-signs-disturbing-message-sparks-investigation-amid-ceo-shooting-aftermath-highway-99-one-less-ceo-many-more-to-go-lake-union-wsdot-sdot

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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