UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot

[Doctor Phibes]

[jon-nyc]

It could still fizzle out in a few days.

But I suspect the trial will keep interest alive, especially if he decides to become a martyr and yell a lot in the courtroom.

[89th]

Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

None of these people are wackos who celebrated the shooting. But they’re talking about this now.

I hate being wrong. You'd think I'd get used to after all the practice

If your threshold of being wrong is "people who haven't personally assassinated a health care CEO, talking about the problems with private health insurance", you will safely be wrong forever. Make yourself comfortable!

[Horace]

@89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Based on what he was yelling as he entered the jail, he doesn't seem to be completely of sound mind.

Yeah but he's of sound body, amirite. Nohomo.

[LuFins Dad]

So 2 months ago, I was talking to a coworker from another store about our UHC Insurance. He proceeds to tell me that his cardiologist had recommended he get stints at his latest visit, but UHC had turned it down. We commiserated and called those guys every name under the sun that he was going to have to fight them.

I talked to him a week later and he told me that he found out that they denied it because the bloodwork, diagnostics, and everything else submitted did not merit a stint. That he looked perfectly healthy. He got a second opinion from another cardiologist that confirmed he was fine. He went back to the first Cardiologist, who said “Yeah, they’re right, you really don’t need it, but it wouldn’t hurt, either”…

Sometimes the insurance companies are the ones protecting us…

[Mik]

We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.

[Mik]

Jesus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Jesus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

[jon-nyc]

@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Jesus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.

[LuFins Dad]

[jon-nyc]

Where was that?

[George K]

@jon-nyc

https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-road-signs-disturbing-message-sparks-investigation-amid-ceo-shooting-aftermath-highway-99-one-less-ceo-many-more-to-go-lake-union-wsdot-sdot

[Horace]

I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

[Horace]

Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

[jon-nyc]

Seen on twitter:

Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

[Horace]

I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

[Horace]

I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

[LuFins Dad]

The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.

The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before…

Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…