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  • J Jolly
    19 Sept 2024, 21:34

    Check Rasmussen...

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 21:36 last edited by
    #113

    @Jolly said in It’s starting:

    Check Rasmussen...

    NYT Sienna is a better poll.

    The Brad

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    • J jon-nyc
      19 Sept 2024, 17:32

      @89th said in It’s starting:

      Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

      Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

      The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

      A policy position I can support.

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      George K
      wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 21:38 last edited by
      #114

      @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

      The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

      A policy position I can support...

      ...now.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 01:53 last edited by
        #115

        Should people be voting for policy, or the persons personality? (and I know that it is impossible to separate I guess)

        We had this discussion earlier about it Presdient Trump was not running and there was another candidate (I think we spoke of Gov. DeSantis) who had the exact same policy positions, would he be doing as well? I think that the agreement was that probably not.

        I read a quote from a CEO who said something like, "The only decisions I should be making are those that ONLY I can make". I understand it to mean that he did not want to make low level, medium level or even high level decisions. He has faith in his EVP's, SVP's, etc. to make those. Only the super high level decisions are the ones he should be involved with.

        I think that presidents often get too involved in decisions that others can (and probably should) make.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 19:07 last edited by
          #116

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          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 20:01 last edited by
            #117

            It’s going to look like a DNA strand over the next monthZ

            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 20:37 last edited by
              #118

              I agree. Also, as Nate points out, the gap is easy to misinterpret. These are probabilities of EC victories, not gaps in polling. 55-45 is closer than it seems. Neck and neck almost.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 12:47 last edited by
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                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 13:10 last edited by
                  #120

                  @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                  The Brad

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    22 Sept 2024, 12:47

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 13:12 last edited by
                    #121

                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

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                    It’s not going to be a complete helix. My guess is you’ll see the each turn get smaller.

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      22 Sept 2024, 13:10

                      @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 13:38 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                      @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                      0.2%

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                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 14:27 last edited by
                        #123

                        That’s dropped since Biden dropped out. I seem to recall it being as high as 4-5%

                        The Brad

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 15:01 last edited by
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                          The fat man’s fall continues.

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                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 15:24 last edited by
                            #125

                            EC tie probability up to 0.3.

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                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 15:30 last edited by
                              #126

                              Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                              Harris’ is +0.3

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 16:07 last edited by LuFins Dad
                                #127

                                As you pointed out yourself, 53-46) in probability is a tossup.

                                The Brad

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 19:45 last edited by
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                                  Give the Word Salad Queen time.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 20:03 last edited by
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                                    I wish we could stop pretending that this is an election to decide on the best candidate for the country and start admitting that whoever's going to win is arbitrarily ahead in the polls on that particular day. It's not like anyone in the country whose financial future is tied to a particular candidate actually likes any of these people.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      23 Sept 2024, 15:30

                                      Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                                      Harris’ is +0.3

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 20:20 last edited by
                                      #130

                                      @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                      Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                                      Harris’ is +0.3

                                      She's had 90%+ favorable publicity from every major broadcast media and every cable media, with the exception of FOX, for her entire candidacy. Trump has been 95% negative.

                                      She ought to be better than than that.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • A Aqua Letifer
                                        23 Sept 2024, 20:03

                                        I wish we could stop pretending that this is an election to decide on the best candidate for the country and start admitting that whoever's going to win is arbitrarily ahead in the polls on that particular day. It's not like anyone in the country whose financial future is tied to a particular candidate actually likes any of these people.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 01:27 last edited by
                                        #131

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s starting:

                                        I wish we could stop pretending that this is an election to decide on the best candidate for the country and start admitting that whoever's going to win is arbitrarily ahead in the polls on that particular day.

                                        Aqua says the truth.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 26 Sept 2024, 17:49 last edited by
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                                          Leveled off, some signs it will start contracting again over the next few days…alt text

                                          The Brad

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