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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

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    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

    It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

    Yeah, yeah. I give Nate a lot of credit for giving Trump a 28% chance in 2016. His model did a lot worse in 2020. He had Trump at 10%, but I think we can all agree that the swing states were far tighter than the model thought likely. I tend to think a 50/50 split still leans Trump’s way.

    The Brad

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      Check Rasmussen...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Check Rasmussen...

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        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

        Check Rasmussen...

        NYT Sienna is a better poll.

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @89th said in It’s starting:

          Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

          Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

          The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

          A policy position I can support.

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          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

          The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

          A policy position I can support...

          ...now.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Should people be voting for policy, or the persons personality? (and I know that it is impossible to separate I guess)

            We had this discussion earlier about it Presdient Trump was not running and there was another candidate (I think we spoke of Gov. DeSantis) who had the exact same policy positions, would he be doing as well? I think that the agreement was that probably not.

            I read a quote from a CEO who said something like, "The only decisions I should be making are those that ONLY I can make". I understand it to mean that he did not want to make low level, medium level or even high level decisions. He has faith in his EVP's, SVP's, etc. to make those. Only the super high level decisions are the ones he should be involved with.

            I think that presidents often get too involved in decisions that others can (and probably should) make.

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              Only non-witches get due process.

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                It’s going to look like a DNA strand over the next monthZ

                The Brad

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                  I agree. Also, as Nate points out, the gap is easy to misinterpret. These are probabilities of EC victories, not gaps in polling. 55-45 is closer than it seems. Neck and neck almost.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

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                        It’s not going to be a complete helix. My guess is you’ll see the each turn get smaller.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                          @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                          0.2%

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            That’s dropped since Biden dropped out. I seem to recall it being as high as 4-5%

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                              The fat man’s fall continues.

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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                EC tie probability up to 0.3.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                                  Harris’ is +0.3

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    As you pointed out yourself, 53-46) in probability is a tossup.

                                    The Brad

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                                      Give the Word Salad Queen time.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        I wish we could stop pretending that this is an election to decide on the best candidate for the country and start admitting that whoever's going to win is arbitrarily ahead in the polls on that particular day. It's not like anyone in the country whose financial future is tied to a particular candidate actually likes any of these people.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                                          Harris’ is +0.3

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                                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                          Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                                          Harris’ is +0.3

                                          She's had 90%+ favorable publicity from every major broadcast media and every cable media, with the exception of FOX, for her entire candidacy. Trump has been 95% negative.

                                          She ought to be better than than that.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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