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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    #108

    When does he start asking for another debate?

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    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      So based on past poll performances, Trump’s up +3

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        #110

        It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

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          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

          It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

          Yeah, yeah. I give Nate a lot of credit for giving Trump a 28% chance in 2016. His model did a lot worse in 2020. He had Trump at 10%, but I think we can all agree that the swing states were far tighter than the model thought likely. I tend to think a 50/50 split still leans Trump’s way.

          The Brad

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            Check Rasmussen...

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Check Rasmussen...

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              #113

              @Jolly said in It’s starting:

              Check Rasmussen...

              NYT Sienna is a better poll.

              The Brad

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @89th said in It’s starting:

                Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

                Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

                The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                A policy position I can support.

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                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                A policy position I can support...

                ...now.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Should people be voting for policy, or the persons personality? (and I know that it is impossible to separate I guess)

                  We had this discussion earlier about it Presdient Trump was not running and there was another candidate (I think we spoke of Gov. DeSantis) who had the exact same policy positions, would he be doing as well? I think that the agreement was that probably not.

                  I read a quote from a CEO who said something like, "The only decisions I should be making are those that ONLY I can make". I understand it to mean that he did not want to make low level, medium level or even high level decisions. He has faith in his EVP's, SVP's, etc. to make those. Only the super high level decisions are the ones he should be involved with.

                  I think that presidents often get too involved in decisions that others can (and probably should) make.

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                      It’s going to look like a DNA strand over the next monthZ

                      The Brad

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                        I agree. Also, as Nate points out, the gap is easy to misinterpret. These are probabilities of EC victories, not gaps in polling. 55-45 is closer than it seems. Neck and neck almost.

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                            @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                            The Brad

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                              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

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                              It’s not going to be a complete helix. My guess is you’ll see the each turn get smaller.

                              The Brad

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                                @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                                0.2%

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                                  That’s dropped since Biden dropped out. I seem to recall it being as high as 4-5%

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                                    The fat man’s fall continues.

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                                      EC tie probability up to 0.3.

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                                        Trump’s favorability rating - 10pts underwater.

                                        Harris’ is +0.3

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                                          As you pointed out yourself, 53-46) in probability is a tossup.

                                          The Brad

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