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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 17:46 last edited by
    #106

    Actually, she's a media creation. Her campaign is fueled by Big Money and she is buying an enormous amount of advertising. It's crafted, polished and ubiquitous on the airwaves.

    She's running Biden's Basement Strategy and catering to the LIV, particularly the gibmedats and the college educated suburban women.

    I've watched Trump do a townhall, a one-hour Hannity interview and the Gutfeld! show. In all of them, he's still Trump, but he churns out ideas, both good and bad. And he makes observations...Last night he talked about the Evangelical vote and the 2nd Amendment vote, and why he's puzzled by lower voter turnout in those groups than expected.

    So, while Trump does come out with some goofy stuff, that brain is spinning and thinking pretty well for a guy his age, especially as juxtaposed with Harris.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 20:30 last edited by jon-nyc
      #107

      By what margin did Trump win the debate again? 92 to 7 he said?

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 20:31 last edited by
        #108

        When does he start asking for another debate?

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 20:42 last edited by
          #109

          So based on past poll performances, Trump’s up +3

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 20:42 last edited by jon-nyc
            #110

            It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

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            • J jon-nyc
              19 Sept 2024, 20:42

              It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 21:27 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

              It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

              Yeah, yeah. I give Nate a lot of credit for giving Trump a 28% chance in 2016. His model did a lot worse in 2020. He had Trump at 10%, but I think we can all agree that the swing states were far tighter than the model thought likely. I tend to think a 50/50 split still leans Trump’s way.

              The Brad

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                Jolly
                wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 21:34 last edited by
                #112

                Check Rasmussen...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  19 Sept 2024, 21:34

                  Check Rasmussen...

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 21:36 last edited by
                  #113

                  @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                  Check Rasmussen...

                  NYT Sienna is a better poll.

                  The Brad

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                    19 Sept 2024, 17:32

                    @89th said in It’s starting:

                    Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

                    Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

                    The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                    A policy position I can support.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 19 Sept 2024, 21:38 last edited by
                    #114

                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                    The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                    A policy position I can support...

                    ...now.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 01:53 last edited by
                      #115

                      Should people be voting for policy, or the persons personality? (and I know that it is impossible to separate I guess)

                      We had this discussion earlier about it Presdient Trump was not running and there was another candidate (I think we spoke of Gov. DeSantis) who had the exact same policy positions, would he be doing as well? I think that the agreement was that probably not.

                      I read a quote from a CEO who said something like, "The only decisions I should be making are those that ONLY I can make". I understand it to mean that he did not want to make low level, medium level or even high level decisions. He has faith in his EVP's, SVP's, etc. to make those. Only the super high level decisions are the ones he should be involved with.

                      I think that presidents often get too involved in decisions that others can (and probably should) make.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 19:07 last edited by
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 20:01 last edited by
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                          It’s going to look like a DNA strand over the next monthZ

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 20:37 last edited by
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                            I agree. Also, as Nate points out, the gap is easy to misinterpret. These are probabilities of EC victories, not gaps in polling. 55-45 is closer than it seems. Neck and neck almost.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 12:47 last edited by
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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 13:10 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                                The Brad

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                                  22 Sept 2024, 12:47

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 13:12 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

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                                  It’s not going to be a complete helix. My guess is you’ll see the each turn get smaller.

                                  The Brad

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                                    22 Sept 2024, 13:10

                                    @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 13:38 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                    @jon-nyc I meant to ask, where is he putting the odds of a 269 split?

                                    0.2%

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 14:27 last edited by
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                                      That’s dropped since Biden dropped out. I seem to recall it being as high as 4-5%

                                      The Brad

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 15:01 last edited by
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                                        The fat man’s fall continues.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 15:24 last edited by
                                          #125

                                          EC tie probability up to 0.3.

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