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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #99

    As a bonus, she can enjoy another box of wine!

    The Brad

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Yeah they have quite a social media presence. I see them on X and FB, paid ads. I don't follow campaigns.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #100

      @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

      Yeah they have quite a social media presence. I see them on X and FB, paid ads. I don't follow campaigns.

      Oh, paid online canvassing ads. I thought you meant Kamala communicating directly, not her marketing team.

      Education is extremely important.

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        #101

        She is usually speaking on the ads. Yeah scripted. Just like press interview responses.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          Horace
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          #102

          She is the least defined candidate ever, and her team is content to keep it that way.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #103

            Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

            Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #104

              'I Was Born Into A Middle Class Family,' Explains Wife When Husband Asks Why The Car Is On Fire

              https://babylonbee.com/news/i-was-born-into-a-middle-class-family-explains-wife-when-husband-asks-why-the-car-is-on-fire?utm_source=The Babylon Bee Newsletter&utm_medium=email

              Education is extremely important.

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              • 89th8 89th

                Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

                Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                #105

                @89th said in It’s starting:

                Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

                Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

                The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                A policy position I can support.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #106

                  Actually, she's a media creation. Her campaign is fueled by Big Money and she is buying an enormous amount of advertising. It's crafted, polished and ubiquitous on the airwaves.

                  She's running Biden's Basement Strategy and catering to the LIV, particularly the gibmedats and the college educated suburban women.

                  I've watched Trump do a townhall, a one-hour Hannity interview and the Gutfeld! show. In all of them, he's still Trump, but he churns out ideas, both good and bad. And he makes observations...Last night he talked about the Evangelical vote and the 2nd Amendment vote, and why he's puzzled by lower voter turnout in those groups than expected.

                  So, while Trump does come out with some goofy stuff, that brain is spinning and thinking pretty well for a guy his age, especially as juxtaposed with Harris.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #107

                    By what margin did Trump win the debate again? 92 to 7 he said?

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #108

                      When does he start asking for another debate?

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                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        #109

                        So based on past poll performances, Trump’s up +3

                        The Brad

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                          #110

                          It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #111

                            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                            It's not a poll, nor a simple average. it's Nate Silver's model. And he updates it every election season with lessons from the previous election.

                            Yeah, yeah. I give Nate a lot of credit for giving Trump a 28% chance in 2016. His model did a lot worse in 2020. He had Trump at 10%, but I think we can all agree that the swing states were far tighter than the model thought likely. I tend to think a 50/50 split still leans Trump’s way.

                            The Brad

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                              Jolly
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                              #112

                              Check Rasmussen...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Check Rasmussen...

                                LuFins DadL Offline
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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                Check Rasmussen...

                                NYT Sienna is a better poll.

                                The Brad

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @89th said in It’s starting:

                                  Yup, she's the NotDon-NotJoe candidate.

                                  Ugh there is a better nickname in there but I'm too tired

                                  The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                                  A policy position I can support.

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                                  George K
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                                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                  The “I promise not to turn 80 in the White House” candidate.

                                  A policy position I can support...

                                  ...now.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    taiwan_girl
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                                    #115

                                    Should people be voting for policy, or the persons personality? (and I know that it is impossible to separate I guess)

                                    We had this discussion earlier about it Presdient Trump was not running and there was another candidate (I think we spoke of Gov. DeSantis) who had the exact same policy positions, would he be doing as well? I think that the agreement was that probably not.

                                    I read a quote from a CEO who said something like, "The only decisions I should be making are those that ONLY I can make". I understand it to mean that he did not want to make low level, medium level or even high level decisions. He has faith in his EVP's, SVP's, etc. to make those. Only the super high level decisions are the ones he should be involved with.

                                    I think that presidents often get too involved in decisions that others can (and probably should) make.

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                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #117

                                        It’s going to look like a DNA strand over the next monthZ

                                        The Brad

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #118

                                          I agree. Also, as Nate points out, the gap is easy to misinterpret. These are probabilities of EC victories, not gaps in polling. 55-45 is closer than it seems. Neck and neck almost.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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