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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • H Horace
    13 Jul 2022, 20:37

    This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 22:57 last edited by
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    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

    Yep. Most physicians would have signed off that the pregnancy carried a health risk for a 10 year old…

    The Brad

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    • H Horace
      13 Jul 2022, 20:37

      This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

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      George K
      wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 23:07 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

      This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

      Exactly. Even the so called "fetal heartbeat" bill is full of controversy. When a "heartbeat" can be discerned is up to debate and interpretation.

      Oh, and at 6 weeks, it's not a fetus, it's an embryo, and there is no heart. There is only a tube that begins to contract.

      Science....

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 23:18 last edited by
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        I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

        The Brad

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        • L LuFins Dad
          13 Jul 2022, 23:18

          I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

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          Jolly
          wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 00:24 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

          Of for the POTUS to use a single source, unvetted story from the bully pulpit for political gain.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Jolly
            wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 01:06 last edited by
            #248

            HIPAA violation...

            https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              14 Jul 2022, 01:06

              HIPAA violation...

              https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 01:33 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              HIPAA violation...

              https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

              *Protected Health Information (PHI):

              Any personally identifiable demographic information that can be used to identify a patient. HIPAA sets national standards for the privacy and security of PHI. HIPAA identifies 18 markers of PHI, which include:

              Name
              Address (including subdivisions smaller than state such as street address, city, county, or zip code)
              Any dates (except years) that are directly related to an individual, including birthday, date of admission or discharge, date of death, or the exact age of individuals older than 89
              Telephone number
              Fax number
              Email address
              Social Security number
              Medical record number
              Health plan beneficiary number
              Account number
              Certificate/license number
              Vehicle identifiers, serial numbers, or license plate numbers
              Device identifiers or serial numbers
              Web URLs
              IP address
              Biometric identifiers such as fingerprints or voice prints
              Full-face photos
              Any other unique identifying numbers, characteristics, or codes*

              You guys know more about this than I do, but if the age was the only thing told, then maybe no violation.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 02:08 last edited by
                #250

                I would have said "No", but apparently this wasn't her patient?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 18:35 last edited by
                  #251

                  So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    14 Jul 2022, 18:35

                    So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 18:40 last edited by
                    #252

                    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                    The important question is whether he is a white Hispanic or not.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • J Jolly
                      7 Jul 2022, 12:38

                      Shouldn't be that way.

                      With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

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                      NobodySock
                      wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 19:01 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      Shouldn't be that way.

                      With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                      Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                      • N NobodySock
                        14 Jul 2022, 19:01

                        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Shouldn't be that way.

                        With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                        Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 20:33 last edited by
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                        @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Shouldn't be that way.

                        With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                        Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                        Hard to do, when the courts won't admit what evidence that was gathered.

                        Did you enjoy 2000 Mules?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • H Horace
                          14 Jul 2022, 18:35

                          So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 20:35 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                          Well...That means The Resident will quit talking about this and move on.

                          Run away! Run away!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 08:20 last edited by
                            #256

                            https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn5mn/ohio-rape-abortion-child-americans-united-for-life

                            Catherine Glenn Foster, the head of Americans United for Life, had this to say in Congress:

                            “If a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that’s not an abortion,”

                            The nonsensical denial is really strong in this one.

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                            • N NobodySock
                              14 Jul 2022, 19:01

                              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              Shouldn't be that way.

                              With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                              Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 10:27 last edited by
                              #257

                              @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              Shouldn't be that way.

                              With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                              Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                              You mean like Hillary claimed? Twice? Like Al Gore claimed?

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                                George K
                                wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 21:38 last edited by
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                                AOC is unclear on the concept.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 21:59 last edited by
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                                  It’s her emotional truth.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    15 Jul 2022, 21:59

                                    It’s her emotional truth.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 22:07 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    It’s her emotional truth.

                                    "Alternative Facts!" FTW.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 03:16 last edited by Axtremus
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                                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                      The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                      An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                      ...


                                      Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                                      • A Axtremus
                                        16 Jul 2022, 03:16

                                        https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                        The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                        An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                        ...


                                        Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 04:21 last edited by
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                                        @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                        https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                        The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                        An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                        ...


                                        Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                        Well, that is just a reading comprehension fail on your part. There is no threat to prosecute for performing the abortion.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          16 Jul 2022, 03:16

                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                          The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                          An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                          ...


                                          Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 11:12 last edited by
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                                          @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                          The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                          An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                          ...


                                          Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                          Uh, no.

                                          Get your facts straight and get back to us.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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