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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #237

    I'm old enough to remember when the entire culture was in need of fainting couches over these sorts of alternative facts.

    Humans are really, really stupid.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #238

      Ain't nuthin' at the Crime Lab...

      https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2022/07/11/ohio-attorney-general-throws-cold-water-on-10-year-old-rape-victim-story-no-case-that-looks-anything-like-this-n1612121

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #239

        Arrest.

        https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          #240

          Arrest of and confession by the rapist, and confirmation by the police that the 10 year old indeed traveled to Indiana for abortion.

          https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

          "A Columbus man has been charged with impregnating a 10-year-old Ohio girl, whose travel to Indiana to seek an abortion led to international attention ...*

          Gershon Fuentes, 27, whose last known address was an apartment on Columbus' Northwest Side, was arrested Tuesday after police say he confessed to raping the child on at least two occasions. He's since been charged with rape, a felony of the first degree in Ohio.

          Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.
          ...

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          • George KG George K

            The status of a "fact."

            Democracy dies in making shit up.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #241

            @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            The status of a "fact."

            Democracy dies in making shit up.

            That chick seems really unreliable. It is definitely suspect that she captures a single sentence from WaPo piece yet refuses to link to the story. The actual story includes the original source, an Indianapolis OBGYN.

            Maybe use the account for entertainment purposes only?

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              #242

              This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #243

                Still stinks, even if true.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #244

                  @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

                  Yep. Most physicians would have signed off that the pregnancy carried a health risk for a 10 year old…

                  The Brad

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

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                    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.

                    Exactly. Even the so called "fetal heartbeat" bill is full of controversy. When a "heartbeat" can be discerned is up to debate and interpretation.

                    Oh, and at 6 weeks, it's not a fetus, it's an embryo, and there is no heart. There is only a tube that begins to contract.

                    Science....

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #246

                      I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

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                        #247

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

                        Of for the POTUS to use a single source, unvetted story from the bully pulpit for political gain.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #248

                          HIPAA violation...

                          https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            HIPAA violation...

                            https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

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                            @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            HIPAA violation...

                            https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

                            *Protected Health Information (PHI):

                            Any personally identifiable demographic information that can be used to identify a patient. HIPAA sets national standards for the privacy and security of PHI. HIPAA identifies 18 markers of PHI, which include:

                            Name
                            Address (including subdivisions smaller than state such as street address, city, county, or zip code)
                            Any dates (except years) that are directly related to an individual, including birthday, date of admission or discharge, date of death, or the exact age of individuals older than 89
                            Telephone number
                            Fax number
                            Email address
                            Social Security number
                            Medical record number
                            Health plan beneficiary number
                            Account number
                            Certificate/license number
                            Vehicle identifiers, serial numbers, or license plate numbers
                            Device identifiers or serial numbers
                            Web URLs
                            IP address
                            Biometric identifiers such as fingerprints or voice prints
                            Full-face photos
                            Any other unique identifying numbers, characteristics, or codes*

                            You guys know more about this than I do, but if the age was the only thing told, then maybe no violation.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #250

                              I would have said "No", but apparently this wasn't her patient?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #251

                                So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #252

                                  @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                                  The important question is whether he is a white Hispanic or not.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Shouldn't be that way.

                                    With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

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                                    NobodySock
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                                    #253

                                    @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    Shouldn't be that way.

                                    With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                                    Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                                      @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      Shouldn't be that way.

                                      With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                                      Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      Shouldn't be that way.

                                      With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                                      Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                                      Hard to do, when the courts won't admit what evidence that was gathered.

                                      Did you enjoy 2000 Mules?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #255

                                        @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                        So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                                        Well...That means The Resident will quit talking about this and move on.

                                        Run away! Run away!

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn5mn/ohio-rape-abortion-child-americans-united-for-life

                                          Catherine Glenn Foster, the head of Americans United for Life, had this to say in Congress:

                                          “If a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that’s not an abortion,”

                                          The nonsensical denial is really strong in this one.

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