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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #246

    I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #247

      @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

      I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

      Of for the POTUS to use a single source, unvetted story from the bully pulpit for political gain.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #248

        HIPAA violation...

        https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          HIPAA violation...

          https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

          taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #249

          @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          HIPAA violation...

          https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

          *Protected Health Information (PHI):

          Any personally identifiable demographic information that can be used to identify a patient. HIPAA sets national standards for the privacy and security of PHI. HIPAA identifies 18 markers of PHI, which include:

          Name
          Address (including subdivisions smaller than state such as street address, city, county, or zip code)
          Any dates (except years) that are directly related to an individual, including birthday, date of admission or discharge, date of death, or the exact age of individuals older than 89
          Telephone number
          Fax number
          Email address
          Social Security number
          Medical record number
          Health plan beneficiary number
          Account number
          Certificate/license number
          Vehicle identifiers, serial numbers, or license plate numbers
          Device identifiers or serial numbers
          Web URLs
          IP address
          Biometric identifiers such as fingerprints or voice prints
          Full-face photos
          Any other unique identifying numbers, characteristics, or codes*

          You guys know more about this than I do, but if the age was the only thing told, then maybe no violation.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #250

            I would have said "No", but apparently this wasn't her patient?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #251

              So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #252

                @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                The important question is whether he is a white Hispanic or not.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Shouldn't be that way.

                  With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

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                  NobodySock
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #253

                  @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  Shouldn't be that way.

                  With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                  Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                  • N NobodySock

                    @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    Shouldn't be that way.

                    With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                    Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #254

                    @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    Shouldn't be that way.

                    With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                    Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                    Hard to do, when the courts won't admit what evidence that was gathered.

                    Did you enjoy 2000 Mules?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #255

                      @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                      Well...That means The Resident will quit talking about this and move on.

                      Run away! Run away!

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #256

                        https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn5mn/ohio-rape-abortion-child-americans-united-for-life

                        Catherine Glenn Foster, the head of Americans United for Life, had this to say in Congress:

                        “If a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that’s not an abortion,”

                        The nonsensical denial is really strong in this one.

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                        • N NobodySock

                          @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          Shouldn't be that way.

                          With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                          Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                          LarryL Offline
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                          Larry
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #257

                          @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          Shouldn't be that way.

                          With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                          Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                          You mean like Hillary claimed? Twice? Like Al Gore claimed?

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #258

                            AOC is unclear on the concept.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #259

                              It’s her emotional truth.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                It’s her emotional truth.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #260

                                @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                It’s her emotional truth.

                                "Alternative Facts!" FTW.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                                  #261

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                  The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                  An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                  ...


                                  Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                    The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                    An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                    ...


                                    Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    #262

                                    @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                    The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                    An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                    ...


                                    Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                    Well, that is just a reading comprehension fail on your part. There is no threat to prosecute for performing the abortion.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                      The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                      An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                      ...


                                      Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #263

                                      @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                      The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                      An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                      ...


                                      Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                      Uh, no.

                                      Get your facts straight and get back to us.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        #264

                                        This is what democracy looks like, as Dobbs intended.

                                        Kansas voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly struck down a proposed constitutional amendment that would remove language enshrining reproductive rights in their state, in a move widely seen as a victory for abortion rights activists.

                                        The proposed amendment was the first time anywhere in the U.S. that voters cast ballots on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.

                                        A ballot question, known as the “Value Them Both Amendment,” asked voters to decide whether the state’s Constitution should continue to protect abortion rights. The proposed amendment to the state Constitution would have removed language that guarantees reproductive rights and asked voters if they prefer to put the issue of abortion in the hands of the state’s Republican-controlled legislature — an outcome that abortion advocates said was all but certain to result in the elimination or curtailment of those rights.

                                        A “yes” vote on the measure would remove from the state Constitution the right to an abortion and hand the issue back to the state legislature. A “no” vote on the measure would make no changes, keeping abortion rights enshrined in the state Constitution.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #265

                                          As it should be.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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