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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

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    Jolly
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    #247

    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…

    Of for the POTUS to use a single source, unvetted story from the bully pulpit for political gain.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      HIPAA violation...

      https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        HIPAA violation...

        https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

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        #249

        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        HIPAA violation...

        https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html

        *Protected Health Information (PHI):

        Any personally identifiable demographic information that can be used to identify a patient. HIPAA sets national standards for the privacy and security of PHI. HIPAA identifies 18 markers of PHI, which include:

        Name
        Address (including subdivisions smaller than state such as street address, city, county, or zip code)
        Any dates (except years) that are directly related to an individual, including birthday, date of admission or discharge, date of death, or the exact age of individuals older than 89
        Telephone number
        Fax number
        Email address
        Social Security number
        Medical record number
        Health plan beneficiary number
        Account number
        Certificate/license number
        Vehicle identifiers, serial numbers, or license plate numbers
        Device identifiers or serial numbers
        Web URLs
        IP address
        Biometric identifiers such as fingerprints or voice prints
        Full-face photos
        Any other unique identifying numbers, characteristics, or codes*

        You guys know more about this than I do, but if the age was the only thing told, then maybe no violation.

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          #250

          I would have said "No", but apparently this wasn't her patient?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

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              George K
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              @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

              The important question is whether he is a white Hispanic or not.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Shouldn't be that way.

                With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

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                NobodySock
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                #253

                @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                Shouldn't be that way.

                With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                • N NobodySock

                  @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  Shouldn't be that way.

                  With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                  Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #254

                  @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  Shouldn't be that way.

                  With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                  Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                  Hard to do, when the courts won't admit what evidence that was gathered.

                  Did you enjoy 2000 Mules?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

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                    #255

                    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

                    Well...That means The Resident will quit talking about this and move on.

                    Run away! Run away!

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      #256

                      https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn5mn/ohio-rape-abortion-child-americans-united-for-life

                      Catherine Glenn Foster, the head of Americans United for Life, had this to say in Congress:

                      “If a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that’s not an abortion,”

                      The nonsensical denial is really strong in this one.

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                      • N NobodySock

                        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Shouldn't be that way.

                        With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                        Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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                        Larry
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                        #257

                        @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Shouldn't be that way.

                        With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

                        Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

                        You mean like Hillary claimed? Twice? Like Al Gore claimed?

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          AOC is unclear on the concept.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Horace
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                            It’s her emotional truth.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              It’s her emotional truth.

                              George KG Offline
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                              @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              It’s her emotional truth.

                              "Alternative Facts!" FTW.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Axtremus
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                                #261

                                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                ...


                                Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                  The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                  An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                  ...


                                  Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                                  @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                  The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                  An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                  ...


                                  Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                  Well, that is just a reading comprehension fail on your part. There is no threat to prosecute for performing the abortion.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                    The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                    An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                    ...


                                    Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
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                                    @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                                    The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                                    An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                                    ...


                                    Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                                    Uh, no.

                                    Get your facts straight and get back to us.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
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                                      This is what democracy looks like, as Dobbs intended.

                                      Kansas voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly struck down a proposed constitutional amendment that would remove language enshrining reproductive rights in their state, in a move widely seen as a victory for abortion rights activists.

                                      The proposed amendment was the first time anywhere in the U.S. that voters cast ballots on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.

                                      A ballot question, known as the “Value Them Both Amendment,” asked voters to decide whether the state’s Constitution should continue to protect abortion rights. The proposed amendment to the state Constitution would have removed language that guarantees reproductive rights and asked voters if they prefer to put the issue of abortion in the hands of the state’s Republican-controlled legislature — an outcome that abortion advocates said was all but certain to result in the elimination or curtailment of those rights.

                                      A “yes” vote on the measure would remove from the state Constitution the right to an abortion and hand the issue back to the state legislature. A “no” vote on the measure would make no changes, keeping abortion rights enshrined in the state Constitution.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
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                                        As it should be.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Pretty much.

                                          I think the abortion issue is going to cool off quite a bit by November.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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