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  • W Do not disturb
    W Do not disturb
    Wim
    wrote on last edited by
    #2782

    An unexpected scenario?

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/08/how-trumps-backfiring-trade-war-could-crash-putins-economy-a88654

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    • jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #2783

      I’ll take it.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • W Do not disturb
        W Do not disturb
        Wim
        wrote last edited by
        #2784

        Say thank you when we rob you...

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote last edited by Renauda
          #2785

          Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.

          Elbows up!

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          • A Online
            A Online
            AndyD
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            #2786

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            • W Do not disturb
              W Do not disturb
              Wim
              wrote last edited by
              #2787

              Either shut up or...

              https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/13/ukraine-civilian-deaths-sumy-attack-russia-us-talks-trump-putin-analysis

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote last edited by
                #2788

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote last edited by
                  #2789

                  Everybody's to blame.

                  Everybody except Trump, presumably.

                  I was only joking

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
                    RenaudaR Offline
                    Renauda
                    wrote last edited by Renauda
                    #2790

                    Par for the Trump course.

                    He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote last edited by
                      #2791

                      What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                      Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                      That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote last edited by
                        #2792

                        Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #2793

                          I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.

                          I was only joking

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                            Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                            That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                            RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote last edited by Renauda
                            #2794

                            @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                            Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                            That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                            It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.

                            As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.

                            So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              89th
                              wrote last edited by
                              #2795

                              Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                              I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                              Link to video

                              Link to video

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                Link to video

                                Link to video

                                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote last edited by
                                #2796

                                @89th Shhhh! You are exposing the truth.

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #2797

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    Tom-K
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #2798

                                    " ⁦@marcorubio is currently defining what it means to abandon absolutely every principle one used to hold dear."

                                    I guess that means Rubio is Presidential timber.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                                      #2799

                                      The ineptitude of Trump and Witkoff:

                                      https://timothyash.substack.com/p/a-fools-guide-to-putin-and-ukraine

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • W Do not disturb
                                        W Do not disturb
                                        Wim
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #2800

                                        Divide et impera:

                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/22/ukraine-russia-rubio-london-crimea-peace-deal/

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote last edited by
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                                          Posted without comment other than let’s see where this takes things…..

                                          Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered to end the war in Ukraine along the current front lines as part of peace talks with the United States, the Financial Times reported Wednesday, citing multiple sources familiar with the negotiations.

                                          During a meeting in St. Petersburg earlier this month, Putin reportedly told Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff that Moscow could drop its claims to parts of four Ukrainian regions still controlled by Kyiv.

                                          Washington has floated its own proposals for ending the conflict, including recognizing Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea and acknowledging its de facto control over occupied areas in Ukraine’s east and south, the FT reported.

                                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/22/putin-proposes-ending-invasion-of-ukraine-along-current-front-lines-ft-a88834

                                          Elbows up!

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