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    Mik
    wrote on 7 Apr 2025, 16:55 last edited by
    #2781

    Interesting take on Ukraine.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-has-a-resource-far-more-valuable-than-minerals/ar-AA1CsqM7

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Wim
      wrote on 10 Apr 2025, 11:28 last edited by
      #2782

      An unexpected scenario?

      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/08/how-trumps-backfiring-trade-war-could-crash-putins-economy-a88654

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 10 Apr 2025, 14:15 last edited by
        #2783

        I’ll take it.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Wim
          wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:12 last edited by
          #2784

          Say thank you when we rob you...

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas

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            Renauda
            wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:45 last edited by Renauda 4 Dec 2025, 20:59
            #2785

            Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.

            Elbows up!

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              AndyD
              wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:06 last edited by
              #2786

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                Wim
                wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:08 last edited by
                #2787

                Either shut up or...

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/13/ukraine-civilian-deaths-sumy-attack-russia-us-talks-trump-putin-analysis

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 16:30 last edited by
                  #2788

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 16:37 last edited by
                    #2789

                    Everybody's to blame.

                    Everybody except Trump, presumably.

                    I was only joking

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 16:48 last edited by Renauda
                      #2790

                      Par for the Trump course.

                      He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.

                      Elbows up!

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                        89th
                        wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 11:39 last edited by
                        #2791

                        What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                        Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                        That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 12:46 last edited by
                          #2792

                          Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 13:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                            #2793

                            I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.

                            I was only joking

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                              15 Apr 2025, 11:39

                              What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                              Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                              That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 15:50 last edited by Renauda
                              #2794

                              @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                              Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                              That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                              It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.

                              As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.

                              So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.

                              Elbows up!

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                                89th
                                wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 12:55 last edited by
                                #2795

                                Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                Link to video

                                Link to video

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                                • 8 89th
                                  18 Apr 2025, 12:55

                                  Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                                  I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                                  Link to video

                                  Link to video

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 15:26 last edited by
                                  #2796

                                  @89th Shhhh! You are exposing the truth.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 20:37 last edited by
                                    #2797

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Tom-K
                                      wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 22:08 last edited by
                                      #2798

                                      " ⁦@marcorubio is currently defining what it means to abandon absolutely every principle one used to hold dear."

                                      I guess that means Rubio is Presidential timber.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 23:47 last edited by Renauda
                                        #2799

                                        The ineptitude of Trump and Witkoff:

                                        https://timothyash.substack.com/p/a-fools-guide-to-putin-and-ukraine

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Wim
                                          wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 21:32 last edited by
                                          #2800

                                          Divide et impera:

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/22/ukraine-russia-rubio-london-crimea-peace-deal/

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