Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man
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@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
Indeed it does. Just like for the restaurants.
I provided a helpful link above defining public accommodation.
@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
Indeed it does. Just like for the restaurants.
I provided a helpful link above defining public accommodation.
Actually the page linked does not mention cemeteries
It is not helpful
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@aqua-letifer said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
I accuse you of ignorance
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
I accuse you of ignorance
That means a lot to me and it hurts me inside.
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@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
Saying this is a racist practice isn't name-calling, it's a statement of fact.
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
Saying this is a racist practice isn't name-calling, it's a statement of fact.
The question is whether it is legal
And of course we would like all the facts before making an accusation of something as not-nice as racism
Did you know that there has been a discussion over the last several centuries about the relative importance of rights to free assembly, freedom of association and racism? Whether these activities are public or private makes a difference.
There is a lot more to it than just screaming racism at people who don't have a racist bone in their body.
But I must say we all recognize virtue whenever someone screams racism.
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@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
BTW, knowing the folks up in Oberlin, if they really didn't want him in there, they'd just dig him up and sit the body off in the piney woods.
@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
It doesn't matter. The custom, law, practice, whatever you want to call it, is antediluvian, it's ugly, and it needs to be done away with out of standards of human decency. If it's law, then we need to change the law.
If we're not sufficiently motivated to change the law, then we should just leave things as they are, and face our true colors.
So to speak.
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At least you're using commas and stuff now.
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Well, that was fucking weird.
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And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.
At least that was the case a few years ago.
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.
At least that was the case a few years ago.
Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?
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@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.
At least that was the case a few years ago.
Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?
No, within a few years and currently
Private entities can generally do whatever they want concerning who they associate or don’t associate with.
Historically black universities are an example of this, they can limit enrollment to black students
The Burning Tree club in Maryland is an example of an all-male club, many members of Congress belong to this club
Public entities or those defined as public accommodations cannot decide to restrict their membership in the same way
I’m no expert on this, but I can tell you that this thread is a good example of how there is a lot of ignorance concerning this topic, people just love to shout Jim Crow and racist but in general it is ok for you to associate with whoever you want especially in private.
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I'd stop digging, if I were you.
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I'd stop digging, if I were you.
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
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Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?
Not in Oberlin.
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@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.
I was only joking
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@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
I was only joking
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Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.
As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.
As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.
Elbows up!
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@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.
Get this
I am neither for nor against diversity in this forum
Sorry, I’m sure you’ll be crawling around looking for your pearls for a while.
