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Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man

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  • MikM Mik

    Can a Catholic cemetery only bury Catholics?

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    Copper
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    #26

    @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

    Can a Catholic cemetery only bury Catholics?

    Check the invoice.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

      Bad legal takes by Copper.

      The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.

      BTW, knowing the folks up in Oberlin, if they really didn't want him in there, they'd just dig him up and sit the body off in the piney woods.

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      @jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

      The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.

      It doesn't matter. The custom, law, practice, whatever you want to call it, is antediluvian, it's ugly, and it needs to be done away with out of standards of human decency. If it's law, then we need to change the law.

      If we're not sufficiently motivated to change the law, then we should just leave things as they are, and face our true colors.

      So to speak.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

        At least that was the case a few years ago.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #29

          At least you're using commas and stuff now.

          Please love yourself.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #30

            Well, that was fucking weird.

            I was only joking

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            • CopperC Copper

              And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

              At least that was the case a few years ago.

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              Renauda
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              #31

              @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

              And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

              At least that was the case a few years ago.

              Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

                At least that was the case a few years ago.

                Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?

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                No, within a few years and currently

                Private entities can generally do whatever they want concerning who they associate or don’t associate with.

                Historically black universities are an example of this, they can limit enrollment to black students

                The Burning Tree club in Maryland is an example of an all-male club, many members of Congress belong to this club

                Public entities or those defined as public accommodations cannot decide to restrict their membership in the same way

                I’m no expert on this, but I can tell you that this thread is a good example of how there is a lot of ignorance concerning this topic, people just love to shout Jim Crow and racist but in general it is ok for you to associate with whoever you want especially in private.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #33

                  I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    I'd stop digging, if I were you.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                    I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                    No need

                    But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                    I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

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                      The right to associate or not to associate is real, but when it comes to organizations not unlimited, usually based on size and exactly how one discriminates in membership. But it is real.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?

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                        @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                        Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?

                        Not in Oberlin.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                          I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                          No need

                          But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                          I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                          I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                          No need

                          But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                          I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

                          I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.

                          I was only joking

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                            Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

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                              @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                              Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                              Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                              I was only joking

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                                Renauda
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                                Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.

                                As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.

                                As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                                  No need

                                  But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                                  I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

                                  I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.

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                                  Copper
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                                  @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                                  No need

                                  But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                                  I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

                                  I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.

                                  Get this

                                  I am neither for nor against diversity in this forum

                                  Sorry, I’m sure you’ll be crawling around looking for your pearls for a while.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                    Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

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                                    #42

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                    Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                    Are you daydrinking?

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                      @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                      Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                      Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                      Are you daydrinking?

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                                      @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                      Are you daydrinking?

                                      I am, NTTAWWT.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                        @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                        Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                        Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                        Are you daydrinking?

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #44

                                        @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                        @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                        Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                        Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                        Are you daydrinking?

                                        Do you think it would help?

                                        I was only joking

                                        MikM 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                          @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                          Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                          Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                          Are you daydrinking?

                                          Do you think it would help?

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                                          Mik
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                                          @doctor-phibes probably.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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