Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 13:48 last edited by
Yes, sorry, without all the facts, calling it not nice is kind of harsh.
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 13:54 last edited by Doctor Phibes 2 Jan 2021, 14:08
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Yes, sorry, without all the facts, calling it not nice is kind of harsh.
Perhaps you could settle for 'occasionally racist'?
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@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
BTW, knowing the folks up in Oberlin, if they really didn't want him in there, they'd just dig him up and sit the body off in the piney woods.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 14:35 last edited by@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
Indeed it does. Just like for the restaurants.
I provided a helpful link above defining public accommodation.
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 14:39 last edited by
While distasteful, old habits die hard. This sort of thing is to be expected. It is not indicative of systemic racism and frankly is not a real big deal.
Unless of course you favor the approach of ruining anyone who does not comply.
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While distasteful, old habits die hard. This sort of thing is to be expected. It is not indicative of systemic racism and frankly is not a real big deal.
Unless of course you favor the approach of ruining anyone who does not comply.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 14:42 last edited by@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
While distasteful, old habits die hard. This sort of thing is to be expected. It is not indicative of systemic racism and frankly is not a real big deal.
Unless of course you favor the approach of ruining anyone who does not comply.
Why can't we just change the racist rule? Why is this even a discussion?
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@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
While distasteful, old habits die hard. This sort of thing is to be expected. It is not indicative of systemic racism and frankly is not a real big deal.
Unless of course you favor the approach of ruining anyone who does not comply.
Why can't we just change the racist rule? Why is this even a discussion?
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 14:44 last edited by@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
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@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 14:44 last edited by@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
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@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:15 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
I accuse you of ignorance
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:15 last edited by
Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?
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@aqua-letifer said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
I accuse you of ignorance
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:16 last edited by@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
Saying this is a racist practice isn't name-calling, it's a statement of fact.
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@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
Indeed it does. Just like for the restaurants.
I provided a helpful link above defining public accommodation.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:16 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
Indeed it does. Just like for the restaurants.
I provided a helpful link above defining public accommodation.
Actually the page linked does not mention cemeteries
It is not helpful
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:19 last edited by
Can a Catholic cemetery only bury Catholics?
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@aqua-letifer said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
I accuse you of ignorance
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:22 last edited by@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@aqua-letifer I believe that is exactly what happened, is it not?
Copper's calling for continued segregation.
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
I accuse you of ignorance
That means a lot to me and it hurts me inside.
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@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
Saying this is a racist practice isn't name-calling, it's a statement of fact.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:23 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'm calling for understanding the law, not just calling names
Saying this is a racist practice isn't name-calling, it's a statement of fact.
The question is whether it is legal
And of course we would like all the facts before making an accusation of something as not-nice as racism
Did you know that there has been a discussion over the last several centuries about the relative importance of rights to free assembly, freedom of association and racism? Whether these activities are public or private makes a difference.
There is a lot more to it than just screaming racism at people who don't have a racist bone in their body.
But I must say we all recognize virtue whenever someone screams racism.
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:24 last edited by
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Can a Catholic cemetery only bury Catholics?
Check the invoice.
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@jon-nyc said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Bad legal takes by Copper.
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
BTW, knowing the folks up in Oberlin, if they really didn't want him in there, they'd just dig him up and sit the body off in the piney woods.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:27 last edited by Catseye3 2 Jan 2021, 17:08@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
The cemetery is private, not public. I don't know if public accommodation law would apply.
It doesn't matter. The custom, law, practice, whatever you want to call it, is antediluvian, it's ugly, and it needs to be done away with out of standards of human decency. If it's law, then we need to change the law.
If we're not sufficiently motivated to change the law, then we should just leave things as they are, and face our true colors.
So to speak.
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:30 last edited by
And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.
At least that was the case a few years ago.
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:34 last edited by
At least you're using commas and stuff now.
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 16:06 last edited by Doctor Phibes 2 Jan 2021, 16:06
Well, that was fucking weird.
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And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.
At least that was the case a few years ago.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 18:33 last edited by@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.
At least that was the case a few years ago.
Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?