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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:

    I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

    I seriously doubt that.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

    @lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:

    I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

    I seriously doubt that.

    Yeah, no kidding.

    More like "I beg your pardon, I've dug up the Rose Garden!"

    I was only joking

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      If Mr. Biden ever wants a headline he should pardon Mr. Trump and ask him to go away.

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      • CopperC Copper

        If Mr. Biden ever wants a headline he should pardon Mr. Trump and ask him to go away.

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        @copper Perhaps they could work out a deal. Trump could pardon Hunter just as he leaves as a show of good will.

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          jon-nyc
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          #13

          Over 100 coming?

          https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

          You were warned.

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            George K
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            #14

            Go big AND go home.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              #15

              Good

              I hope he sets a record with a huge number

              He should include Joe and Hunter Biden

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #16

                What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

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                  Loki
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                  #17

                  @doctor-phibes said in Pardonpalooza:

                  What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                  Political candidate.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Over 100 coming?

                    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

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                    Loki
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                    @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                    Over 100 coming?

                    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                    Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?

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                      #19

                      I have no idea. It's only the controversial ones that ever get reported.

                      You were warned.

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                        #20

                        https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/24/so-far-trump-has-granted-clemency-less-frequently-than-any-president-in-modern-history/

                        On the same website:

                        "Barack Obama averaged fewer executive orders per year in office than any U.S. president in 120 years.'

                        https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/

                        I was only joking

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                        • L Loki

                          @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                          Over 100 coming?

                          https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                          Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?

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                          Renauda
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                          @loki said in Pardonpalooza:

                          @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                          Over 100 coming?

                          https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                          Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?

                          Possibly. Trump apparently feels slighted by the entire nation. After all, it's everybody else's fault things got out of control. If everyone had just listened and followed his path.

                          Elbows up!

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                            CNN: Trump's sordid pardons cement his corrupt legacy

                            "The Founding Fathers would have been disgusted by President Donald Trump's serial abuse of the pardon power. Nearly 90% of his pardons to date have gone to friends or politically connected allies -- including corrupt politicians. While the President's pardon power may seem unconstrained by the Constitution, a closer look shows that Trump is violating every principle the framers of the Constitution assumed would be followed by a principled President -- and there's evidence they intended special constraints on a President's pardon power after they'd been impeached."

                            Though this initial paragraph addresses the head, the rest of the article discusses the interesting debate amongst the Framers on Presidential pardons.

                            I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              CNN: Trump's sordid pardons cement his corrupt legacy

                              "The Founding Fathers would have been disgusted by President Donald Trump's serial abuse of the pardon power. Nearly 90% of his pardons to date have gone to friends or politically connected allies -- including corrupt politicians. While the President's pardon power may seem unconstrained by the Constitution, a closer look shows that Trump is violating every principle the framers of the Constitution assumed would be followed by a principled President -- and there's evidence they intended special constraints on a President's pardon power after they'd been impeached."

                              Though this initial paragraph addresses the head, the rest of the article discusses the interesting debate amongst the Framers on Presidential pardons.

                              I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."

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                              @catseye3 said in Pardonpalooza:

                              I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."

                              Lots of destruction of the republic going around. There will never be any end to drama queens masturbating and cumming over the corpses of their fallen political opponents.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @catseye3 said in Pardonpalooza:

                                I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."

                                Lots of destruction of the republic going around. There will never be any end to drama queens masturbating and cumming over the corpses of their fallen political opponents.

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                                @horace said in Pardonpalooza:

                                Lots of destruction of the republic going around.

                                I didn't post Mason's argument to support any position of mine, but because I thought it was interesting in its own right.

                                I don't know enough about the prez pardon to have a position.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  @Phibes

                                  What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                                  Jesus.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    jodi
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                                    #26

                                    😁😁😁

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                                      Loki
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                                      I’d like to see specifics on where Trump has departed on what type of person got pardoned historically and the relative size of their transgressions.

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                                      • L Loki

                                        I’d like to see specifics on where Trump has departed on what type of person got pardoned historically and the relative size of their transgressions.

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                                        @loki said in Pardonpalooza:

                                        I’d like to see specifics on where Trump has departed on what type of person got pardoned historically and the relative size of their transgressions.

                                        When you find it, post it here, mkay? 😀

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          @Phibes

                                          What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                                          Jesus.

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                                          @mik said in Pardonpalooza:

                                          @Phibes

                                          What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                                          Jesus.

                                          I said crooks, not blokes who seemed a bit fishy.

                                          I was only joking

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