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  • taiwan_girlT Online
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    taiwan_girl
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    #3

    All presidents do them, and from what I have hear, always some of them are "legitimate" and some of do not seem to be.

    Same with President Trump. I do not think the number or "scope" will be much different from other Presidents.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #4

      A well known example from Ms. Clinton's husband

      ![alt text](5bf06648-ced0-46cd-a916-565b07bac9ad-image.png image url)

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #5

        https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/15/trump-weighing-bannon-pardon-459765

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #6

          He swindled Trump’s most loyal base. But hey. He’s apparently Trump’s confidant again. Rudy exits stage left, and Bannon slips in.

          You were warned.

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          • L Offline
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            Loki
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            The news is reporting Trump has no plans to pardon himself nor his family.

            We will know for sure by 12:00 EST on Wednesday

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #8

              I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

                jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #9

                @lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:

                I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

                I seriously doubt that.

                You were warned.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:

                  I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

                  I seriously doubt that.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #10

                  @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                  @lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:

                  I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”

                  I seriously doubt that.

                  Yeah, no kidding.

                  More like "I beg your pardon, I've dug up the Rose Garden!"

                  I was only joking

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    #11

                    If Mr. Biden ever wants a headline he should pardon Mr. Trump and ask him to go away.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      If Mr. Biden ever wants a headline he should pardon Mr. Trump and ask him to go away.

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                      Rich
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                      #12

                      @copper Perhaps they could work out a deal. Trump could pardon Hunter just as he leaves as a show of good will.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #13

                        Over 100 coming?

                        https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                        You were warned.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #14

                          Go big AND go home.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • CopperC Offline
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                            Copper
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                            Good

                            I hope he sets a record with a huge number

                            He should include Joe and Hunter Biden

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #16

                              What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

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                                Loki
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                                #17

                                @doctor-phibes said in Pardonpalooza:

                                What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?

                                Political candidate.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Over 100 coming?

                                  https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                                  Over 100 coming?

                                  https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                                  Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    #19

                                    I have no idea. It's only the controversial ones that ever get reported.

                                    You were warned.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #20

                                      https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/24/so-far-trump-has-granted-clemency-less-frequently-than-any-president-in-modern-history/

                                      On the same website:

                                      "Barack Obama averaged fewer executive orders per year in office than any U.S. president in 120 years.'

                                      https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • L Loki

                                        @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                                        Over 100 coming?

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                                        Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @loki said in Pardonpalooza:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:

                                        Over 100 coming?

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html?fbclid=IwAR05hTxwvMRiq-zzWPO02dvP2HOs6XI1_Nu8FIKeHEnKevQ5lGYtax0cFrc

                                        Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?

                                        Possibly. Trump apparently feels slighted by the entire nation. After all, it's everybody else's fault things got out of control. If everyone had just listened and followed his path.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • Catseye3C Offline
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                                          CNN: Trump's sordid pardons cement his corrupt legacy

                                          "The Founding Fathers would have been disgusted by President Donald Trump's serial abuse of the pardon power. Nearly 90% of his pardons to date have gone to friends or politically connected allies -- including corrupt politicians. While the President's pardon power may seem unconstrained by the Constitution, a closer look shows that Trump is violating every principle the framers of the Constitution assumed would be followed by a principled President -- and there's evidence they intended special constraints on a President's pardon power after they'd been impeached."

                                          Though this initial paragraph addresses the head, the rest of the article discusses the interesting debate amongst the Framers on Presidential pardons.

                                          I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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