Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:39 last edited by
We don't know how deep the little sub is. But at any rate the Canadians heard it.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:43 last edited by
Even if they'd find the boat and even if they'd be able to give them oxygen, how would they ever be able to actually rescue them?
Could you attach a rope and pull the boat up? In such depths, very simple things get very complicated.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:45 last edited by Copper
A friend was stationed in an ASW plane on an aircraft carrier. One day he was testing his equipment an dropped a sonar buoy right on top of an LA class sub. He hit it, totally by accident, nobody was supposed to know it was there.
When he landed back on the carrier he was invited to the Captain’s quarters. The captain informed him that he did not find an LA class sub. End of story.
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Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?
Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?
dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot
Or dit dah if you want to be picky
I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 13:03 last edited by@Copper said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?
Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?
dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot
Or dit dah if you want to be picky
I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.
Morse Code isn’t very inspiring. It’s the kind of thing a 50 year old white guy does. I’m sure it’s probably the drum beat from some techno song. Far more inspiring…
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 13:46 last edited by
Of course, it looks like it was the actual CEO piloting. Considering he’s a 50 year old white guy, there is some macabre humor involved.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 13:58 last edited by
Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.
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@Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.
I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.
(You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).
Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??
But as to sound traveling through sea water...
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:00 last edited by@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??
Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.
I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:
At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person
More information about death by Delta P:
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@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??
Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.
I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:
At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person
More information about death by Delta P:
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:13 last edited by@89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
More information about death by Delta P:
Fascinating. Watch the video.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:20 last edited by
@89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.
Not weird at all, that's exactly how we got the white elite ideology behind the wokeness. There is nothing more powerful than being an elite who's convinced the ignorant masses they're against the elites. It's also important to keep in mind that these people believe their own BS. As long as the good sorts of white people are in power, everything is ok. And they're the good sort.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.
Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.
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I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.
Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:34 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.
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@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:40 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:41 last edited by RenaudaI doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 15:01 last edited by
I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.
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I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 15:01 last edited by@Renauda said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
You can think what you will about that criticism, but by no principle is military immune to critics. What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.
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I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 15:03 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.
I agree that the 'woke' thing is a sideshow in this case. This failure was about engineering hubris.
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@Renauda said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
You can think what you will about that criticism, but by no principle is military immune to critics. What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.
wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 15:11 last edited by RenaudaWhat people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.
I don’t believe that is limited to the left or wokeness. It stems from ignorance and fear and there is an abundance of both of those irrespective of ideology
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 15:33 last edited by
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wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 17:13 last edited by
Can you copy and post it? I can't see it. Paywall.
