Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic
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@Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.
I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.
(You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).
Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??
But as to sound traveling through sea water...
@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??
Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.
I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:
At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person
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@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??
Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.
I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:
At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person
More information about death by Delta P:
@89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
More information about death by Delta P:
Fascinating. Watch the video.
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@89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.
Not weird at all, that's exactly how we got the white elite ideology behind the wokeness. There is nothing more powerful than being an elite who's convinced the ignorant masses they're against the elites. It's also important to keep in mind that these people believe their own BS. As long as the good sorts of white people are in power, everything is ok. And they're the good sort.
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I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.
Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.
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I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.
Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.
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@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.
You say that like there's a difference.
Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
Elbows up!
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I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.
I was only joking
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I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
@Renauda said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
You can think what you will about that criticism, but by no principle is military immune to critics. What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.
Education is extremely important.
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I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.
I agree that the 'woke' thing is a sideshow in this case. This failure was about engineering hubris.
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@Renauda said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.
Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.
The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.
You can think what you will about that criticism, but by no principle is military immune to critics. What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.
What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.
I don’t believe that is limited to the left or wokeness. It stems from ignorance and fear and there is an abundance of both of those irrespective of ideology
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Link to video
I remember seeing this a while back. The Titan(ic) is shown at 3:30.
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So even if they find them…
@LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:
So even if they find them…
That's sort of what @Klaus was alluding to. Even if found, actually bringing it to the surface in time is a daunting task. Does the Titan even have any kind of rescue-attaching thingamabobs?
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I'm fairly confident the Titan will never be found. It took forever to find the Titanic.
Unrelated, how are squids not crushed to death at that depth? (Answered it as I typed this, google says its because creatures like that are made mostly of water and/or do not have air that can be compressed in)
