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    George K
    wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 11:55 last edited by
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    "Inspirational" > "Experienced"

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:18 last edited by
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      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/this-will-be-the-last-chance-mini-submarine-deployed-in-final-bid-to-save-titan-crew/ar-AA1cPGng?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0b1b540810ab434a8c5da61c7b5173be&ei=14

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Copper
        wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:23 last edited by Copper
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        Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

        Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

        dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

        Or dit dah if you want to be picky

        I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

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          Jon
          wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:29 last edited by
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          The sonobuoys are going to pick up any unnatural pattern. They're designed to find the quietest subs in the world.

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            Jon
            wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:34 last edited by
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            I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

            I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

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              Copper
              wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:35 last edited by
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              So we ought to be able to hear these guys praying.

              Or if they are getting hungry, preying.

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              • J Jon
                21 Jun 2023, 12:34

                I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

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                George K
                wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:38 last edited by
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                @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

                (You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).

                Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                But as to sound traveling through sea water...

                https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sound.html

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Jon
                  wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:39 last edited by
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                  We don't know how deep the little sub is. But at any rate the Canadians heard it.

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:43 last edited by
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                    Even if they'd find the boat and even if they'd be able to give them oxygen, how would they ever be able to actually rescue them?

                    Could you attach a rope and pull the boat up? In such depths, very simple things get very complicated.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 12:45 last edited by Copper
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                      A friend was stationed in an ASW plane on an aircraft carrier. One day he was testing his equipment an dropped a sonar buoy right on top of an LA class sub. He hit it, totally by accident, nobody was supposed to know it was there.

                      When he landed back on the carrier he was invited to the Captain’s quarters. The captain informed him that he did not find an LA class sub. End of story.

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                      • C Copper
                        21 Jun 2023, 12:23

                        Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                        Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                        dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                        Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                        I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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                        @Copper said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                        Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                        Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                        dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                        Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                        I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

                        Morse Code isn’t very inspiring. It’s the kind of thing a 50 year old white guy does. I’m sure it’s probably the drum beat from some techno song. Far more inspiring…

                        The Brad

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 13:46 last edited by
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                          Of course, it looks like it was the actual CEO piloting. Considering he’s a 50 year old white guy, there is some macabre humor involved.

                          The Brad

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                            89th
                            wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 13:58 last edited by
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                            Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

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                            • G George K
                              21 Jun 2023, 12:38

                              @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                              I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

                              (You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).

                              Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                              But as to sound traveling through sea water...

                              https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sound.html

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                              89th
                              wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:00 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                              Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.

                              I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:

                              At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person

                              More information about death by Delta P:

                              https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

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                                21 Jun 2023, 14:00

                                @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                                Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.

                                I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:

                                At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person

                                More information about death by Delta P:

                                https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

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                                George K
                                wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:13 last edited by
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                                @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                More information about death by Delta P:

                                https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

                                Fascinating. Watch the video.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  21 Jun 2023, 13:58

                                  Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:20 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                  Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

                                  Not weird at all, that's exactly how we got the white elite ideology behind the wokeness. There is nothing more powerful than being an elite who's convinced the ignorant masses they're against the elites. It's also important to keep in mind that these people believe their own BS. As long as the good sorts of white people are in power, everything is ok. And they're the good sort.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                    I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                    Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.

                                    Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      21 Jun 2023, 14:29

                                      I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                      Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.

                                      Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:34 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                      You say that like there's a difference.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        21 Jun 2023, 14:34

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                        You say that like there's a difference.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                        You say that like there's a difference.

                                        Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          21 Jun 2023, 14:36

                                          @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                          You say that like there's a difference.

                                          Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 14:40 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                          You say that like there's a difference.

                                          Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.

                                          I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

                                          I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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