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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    #31

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/this-will-be-the-last-chance-mini-submarine-deployed-in-final-bid-to-save-titan-crew/ar-AA1cPGng?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0b1b540810ab434a8c5da61c7b5173be&ei=14

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • CopperC Online
      CopperC Online
      Copper
      wrote on last edited by Copper
      #32

      Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

      Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

      dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

      Or dit dah if you want to be picky

      I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

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      • JonJ Offline
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        Jon
        wrote on last edited by
        #33

        The sonobuoys are going to pick up any unnatural pattern. They're designed to find the quietest subs in the world.

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        • JonJ Offline
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          Jon
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          #34

          I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

          I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

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          • CopperC Online
            CopperC Online
            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #35

            So we ought to be able to hear these guys praying.

            Or if they are getting hungry, preying.

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            • JonJ Jon

              I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

              I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #36

              @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

              I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

              I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

              (You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).

              Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

              But as to sound traveling through sea water...

              https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sound.html

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JonJ Offline
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                Jon
                wrote on last edited by
                #37

                We don't know how deep the little sub is. But at any rate the Canadians heard it.

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #38

                  Even if they'd find the boat and even if they'd be able to give them oxygen, how would they ever be able to actually rescue them?

                  Could you attach a rope and pull the boat up? In such depths, very simple things get very complicated.

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                  • CopperC Online
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                    #39

                    A friend was stationed in an ASW plane on an aircraft carrier. One day he was testing his equipment an dropped a sonar buoy right on top of an LA class sub. He hit it, totally by accident, nobody was supposed to know it was there.

                    When he landed back on the carrier he was invited to the Captain’s quarters. The captain informed him that he did not find an LA class sub. End of story.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                      Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                      dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                      Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                      I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #40

                      @Copper said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                      Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                      Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                      dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                      Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                      I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

                      Morse Code isn’t very inspiring. It’s the kind of thing a 50 year old white guy does. I’m sure it’s probably the drum beat from some techno song. Far more inspiring…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #41

                        Of course, it looks like it was the actual CEO piloting. Considering he’s a 50 year old white guy, there is some macabre humor involved.

                        The Brad

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
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                          #42

                          Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                            I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                            I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

                            (You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).

                            Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                            But as to sound traveling through sea water...

                            https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sound.html

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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #43

                            @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                            Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                            Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.

                            I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:

                            At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person

                            More information about death by Delta P:

                            https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                              Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.

                              I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:

                              At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person

                              More information about death by Delta P:

                              https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

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                              George K
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                              #44

                              @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                              More information about death by Delta P:

                              https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

                              Fascinating. Watch the video.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #45

                                @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

                                Not weird at all, that's exactly how we got the white elite ideology behind the wokeness. There is nothing more powerful than being an elite who's convinced the ignorant masses they're against the elites. It's also important to keep in mind that these people believe their own BS. As long as the good sorts of white people are in power, everything is ok. And they're the good sort.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #46

                                  I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                  Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.

                                  Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                    Safety testing is so boring, and stifles innovation and all that. That's not a woke attitude, that's a young hot-shot attitude. Also, some old white guys think like that too - frequently because they want to save money.

                                    Incidentally, on a vaguely related note our new boss came in this year, and apparently said "All I'm seeing are a bunch of old white guys". He wasn't wrong, but he won't be seeing us for long, and then they're going to be screwed.

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                                    Horace
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                                    #47

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                    I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                    You say that like there's a difference.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                      You say that like there's a difference.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                      You say that like there's a difference.

                                      Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                        You say that like there's a difference.

                                        Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke. As I said earlier, I see this attitude quite a lot from people who are highly educated technically, but are often running start-ups and small businesses.

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                                        Horace
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                        You say that like there's a difference.

                                        Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.

                                        I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

                                        I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          I don't know that the videos I saw were particularly 'woke', more like him trying to be all cool and young and innovative.

                                          You say that like there's a difference.

                                          Of course there is. It's not about whether he's woke or not, it's about him being young and arrogant. One of the Trump boys could easily have made the same mistake, and they're not exactly woke.

                                          I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

                                          I don't think anybody not captured in some part by progressive culture, goes around using the word "white" pejoratively. Like apparently your new boss does.

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #50

                                          I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

                                          Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.

                                          The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.

                                          Elbows up!

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