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Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #25

    With more than 4,000 customer reviews on Amazon, it has a rating of 4.2 stars out of 5. Customers were especially high on the ergonomics of the controller.

    I wonder how many stars it needs to pass safety standards.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG George K

      @blondie said in Joining the Titanic:

      Could this be true? A video game controller?

      https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tactics/us-military-video-game-controllers-war/

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #26

      @George-K said in Joining the Titanic:

      @blondie said in Joining the Titanic:

      Could this be true? A video game controller?

      https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tactics/us-military-video-game-controllers-war/

      What's the betting that the military "improves" the controller enough so that it ends up costing at least 10K?

      I was only joking

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      • JonJ Jon

        A very pertinent detail from Renauda’s article:

        OceanGate confirmed its CEO Stockton Rush is aboard the submersible

        As Taleb would say, “skin in the game”

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        #27

        @Jon said in Joining the Titanic:

        A very pertinent detail from Renauda’s article:

        OceanGate confirmed its CEO Stockton Rush is aboard the submersible

        As Taleb would say, “skin in the game”

        Yeah, I'm sure he genuinely believed he knew better than all those so-called safety experts.

        I was only joking

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        • B Offline
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          blondie
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          #28

          My kid’s assessment .. “ During the early 2010s if you walked into a computer store's gaming section you could buy one of these OR spend $20 more and buy a wireless Xbox 360 controller.

          This thing. This f--king thing, is a piece of shit. Sync issues, poor build quality, outclassed in every way by the Xbox 360 pad, and even the Dualshock 3, the PlayStation 3's controller.”

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #29

            https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/submarine-titantic-missing-submersible-tourists-latest-b2360568.html

            A Canadian aircraft searching for the sub in the Atlantic Ocean detected intermittent “banging” noises from the vicinity of its last known location.

            This discovery was shared via internal e-mails sent to the heads of the Department of Homeland Security.

            The crew searching for the missing sub heard banging sounds every 30 minutes on Tuesday and again four hours later, after additional sonar devices were deployed.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #30

              "Inspirational" > "Experienced"

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                #31

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/this-will-be-the-last-chance-mini-submarine-deployed-in-final-bid-to-save-titan-crew/ar-AA1cPGng?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0b1b540810ab434a8c5da61c7b5173be&ei=14

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by Copper
                  #32

                  Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                  Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                  dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                  Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                  I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

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                  • JonJ Offline
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                    #33

                    The sonobuoys are going to pick up any unnatural pattern. They're designed to find the quietest subs in the world.

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                    • JonJ Offline
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                      #34

                      I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                      I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #35

                        So we ought to be able to hear these guys praying.

                        Or if they are getting hungry, preying.

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                        • JonJ Jon

                          I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                          I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #36

                          @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                          I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

                          (You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).

                          Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                          But as to sound traveling through sea water...

                          https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sound.html

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jon
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #37

                            We don't know how deep the little sub is. But at any rate the Canadians heard it.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #38

                              Even if they'd find the boat and even if they'd be able to give them oxygen, how would they ever be able to actually rescue them?

                              Could you attach a rope and pull the boat up? In such depths, very simple things get very complicated.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by Copper
                                #39

                                A friend was stationed in an ASW plane on an aircraft carrier. One day he was testing his equipment an dropped a sonar buoy right on top of an LA class sub. He hit it, totally by accident, nobody was supposed to know it was there.

                                When he landed back on the carrier he was invited to the Captain’s quarters. The captain informed him that he did not find an LA class sub. End of story.

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                                  Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                                  dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                                  Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                                  I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #40

                                  @Copper said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                  Has anyone reported any pattern to this banging?

                                  Could most people tap out a simple Morse Code SOS?

                                  dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

                                  Or dit dah if you want to be picky

                                  I would expect a guy driving this sub would at least tap some kind of pattern.

                                  Morse Code isn’t very inspiring. It’s the kind of thing a 50 year old white guy does. I’m sure it’s probably the drum beat from some techno song. Far more inspiring…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #41

                                    Of course, it looks like it was the actual CEO piloting. Considering he’s a 50 year old white guy, there is some macabre humor involved.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • 89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #42

                                      Weird that bring in the "white" race card, considering they're all white.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        I don't know exactly, I worked for the defense contracting arm of Magnavox in the 80s which made them (since sold to another company). They were designed to locate Soviet nuclear subs. Those could probably go pretty deep.

                                        I don't know how well the sound travels in the water.

                                        (You're responding to a post I deleted, LOL).

                                        Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                                        But as to sound traveling through sea water...

                                        https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sound.html

                                        89th8 Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #43

                                        @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                                        Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.

                                        I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:

                                        At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person

                                        More information about death by Delta P:

                                        https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          Titanic is at, what, 13000 feet? That's far beyond the capabilities of any submarine isn't it? ISN'T IT??

                                          Normal military subs go, at the very most, maybe 2900 feet.

                                          I did see an analysis on reddit that talked about the pressure at 13000 feet:

                                          At the titanic’s depth, the pressure is approximately 6000 PSI, so that’s 6000 pounds of force per square inch. An adult human’s body has a surface area of over 2500 inches, so that’s the equivalent of about 15 million pounds pushing on you. For reference, a typical passenger jet is less than half a million pounds, so about 35-40 airplanes stacked on top of a person

                                          More information about death by Delta P:

                                          https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

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                                          George K
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                                          #44

                                          @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          More information about death by Delta P:

                                          https://physicsfootnotes.com/footnotes/delta-p/

                                          Fascinating. Watch the video.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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