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  • Newsweek or The Bee?

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    It’s interesting that she didn’t take any action when they were called ‘Haley voters for Biden’.

  • Democracy?

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    jon-nycJ

    71% of pro-trump voters from 2016 failed to vote in the 2020 primary. That’s par for the course in uncompetitive primaries.

  • Now I feel like crap....

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    @Jolly said in Now I feel like crap....:

    Fear is the beginning of respect.

    I'm not talking about irrational fear or dread, just the acknowledgement that the boss does have the authority to bring the hammer and will do so if it has to be.

    I suspect the silence wasn't fear as much as sulking.

  • The other Kamala

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    jon-nycJ

    The other Donald. Complete with red tie and seething anger.

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  • Am I racist?

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Am I racist?:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Am I racist?:

    Wait, I just saw the trailer all the way through. Was that Robin Diangelo at the end? 😲 Okay, I will go to the theaters for this one, and it will not be a bleak day at all!

    Each to their own, I guess. I must admit I don't find her particularly sexy.

    Oh, she’s the exact opposite of sexy. A real horror show.

  • A Glittering Dimon

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    @jon-nyc said in A Glittering Dimon:

    That would be a good pick

    But honestly this should have been enough for me to know it wasn’t real. I’m losing my game.

  • Biden: “I’m out.”

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    jon-nycJ

    I always thought he’d pardon him or commute the sentence after the election whether he won or not. I still think he’ll wait until after the election.

  • American Thinker du jour - Warren Report edition

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    RenaudaR

    Along similar lines….

    The Government Has Failed America Since the Trump Shooting

    By Gerald Posner and Mark S. Zaid

    Mr. Posner is the author of books about the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy (“Case Closed”) and Martin Luther King Jr. (“Killing the Dream”). Mr. Zaid is a lawyer specializing in national security matters who has represented Secret Service agents spanning the administrations of President Eisenhower to President Biden.

    Those of us who have studied modern assassinations, including those of President John F. Kennedy and the civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr., hoped the government had learned a lesson from its dismal public responses.

    The government’s repeated failure to address what it knew quickly fed suspicions that the silence itself was evidence of a conspiracy. The federal government sealed files for decades and refused to disclose information — often to protect the reputation of agencies and their officials — which only added fuel to conspiracy theories.

    In the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, we are seeing that happen again.

    Until this week there had not been a single news conference by the Secret Service or the Department of Homeland Security, no release of files that might show the preparations for securing vulnerable locations from which an assassin might strike, not even a formal news release from the officials facing criticism for unmistakable miscues caught on video by those at the rally.

    Neither the public nor Congress learned much more when Kimberly Cheatle, the director of the Secret Service at the time of the shooting, appeared before a congressional committee on Monday. Ms. Cheatle acknowledged that the shooting at the Trump rally ranked as the agency’s “most significant operational failure” in decades. But there was outrage from both Democrats and Republicans at her repeated refusal to answer specific questions about the security failures that contributed to it.

    The silence looked particularly bad given news reports, initially denied by the government, that top Secret Service officials over a two-year span rejected repeated requests for more agents and magnetometers at Mr. Trump’s large public events, as well as declined to provide extra snipers for outdoor venues.

    Ms. Cheatle, who resigned on Tuesday, told Congress, “The assets that were requested for that day were given.” Still, suspicions were allowed to fester that Mr. Trump’s protection service was deliberately lax.

    In this age of social media, it took only minutes after the assassination attempt before conspiracy speculation appeared online. America’s polarized partisans embraced equally implausible plots. Mr. Trump’s most rabid fans put the blame on the so-called deep state, while those who considered the former president a threat to democracy dismissed it as a fake event. Platforms such as X and Telegram were deluged with posts about the attempt being “staged” or an “inside job.”

    The theories were not simply the province of the fringes of the internet. Elon Musk responded to a question on X — “How was a sniper with a full rifle kit allowed to bear crawl onto the closest roof to a presidential nominee”? — by saying, “Extreme incompetence or it was deliberate.” That post was viewed 92 million times. Representative Mike Collins, Republican of Georgia, said on the night of the shooting that President Biden “sent the orders.” The far-right Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, also a Georgia Republican, posted on X, “This reeks of something a lot more sinister and bigger.” A political adviser to a Democratic megadonor, the LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman, sent an email the same night to some journalists wondering if the shooting was “staged so Trump could get the photos and benefit from the backlash.” The adviser, Dmitri Mehlhorn, later apologized.

    The reach of these conspiracy theories is indeed vast. The Times reported that 24 hours after the assassination attempt, social media posts asserting that Mr. Biden and his allies had engineered the attack “had been viewed and shared millions of times.”

    No one expects instant answers; that would provoke as much skepticism as a long delay. But the public has become accustomed to officials holding regular news conferences in the aftermath of tragedies and disasters. The public will tolerate “We are not sure yet” or “that is still under investigation” if other facts are revealed as the investigators uncover them.

    Conspiracy theorists fill the void or challenge established facts with their own versions of the truth. Once a falsehood gets repeated enough, it is hard to reverse it. In the early days following the Kennedy assassination, it was often said that the greatest marksmen in the world tried and failed to repeat what the government said Lee Harvey Oswald had done — fire three shots at a moving target in a very short amount of time. But it turned out that Mr. Oswald had plenty of time to get the shots off, and what he did has been replicated numerous times. Still, I wish I had a dollar for every person who has said to me, “I heard the world’s best snipers couldn’t do what they said Oswald did.”

    We saw following the Kennedy and King murders that many people had difficulty accepting that a single troubled, otherwise inconsequential person could change history. A conspiracy theory did that very nicely. If President Kennedy was killed because a secret cabal had to stop him from withdrawing from Vietnam, or because he wanted to upend the Central Intelligence Agency, it gave some meaning to his death. It is not as if he died for no reason at the hands of a single unbalanced assassin.

    It was similar with Dr. King: James Earl Ray, a 40-year-old small-time criminal, killing him on his own. Putting a large conspiracy behind Dr. King’s murder seemed to give odd comfort to some people.

    The House is expected on Wednesday to approve a bipartisan task force to investigate the attempted assassination, to be led by Republicans. Seven Republicans and six Democrats would sit on the panel. That is encouraging.

    We think a better approach would be a Sept. 11-style commission, with broad subpoena power, free of far-right and far-left political appointees. Will its eventual report extinguish conspiracy speculation about what happened in the Trump shooting? Probably not. President Kennedy’s assassination is still a hotly contested topic more than six decades later.

    Without such an independent inquiry and report, however, history will be left to unqualified social media influencers and malicious actors, whether governments or individuals, who intentionally spread disinformation for their own purposes. That is a surefire recipe for ensuring the country stays divided forever about what happened.

  • And now…. The memes.

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    https://babylonbee.com/news/secret-service-director-steps-down-due-to-failure-to-take-out-trump

  • Two Models Muck-Wrestling

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    89th8

    It's simple:

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  • BLM not happy about Kamala

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    @jon-nyc said in BLM not happy about Kamala:

    It’s worth noting they haven’t voted yet. In theory they could change their minds next month.

    That’s my view. The interesting thing is the virtual roll call. Dems that were against it last week are suddenly for it…

  • Lend-Lease 2.0

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    @taiwan_girl

    Sorry - it was the extension in the spring of 1945. More specifically, to defeat an amendment that would have ended it.

    Truman wasn’t even Veep when lend-lease was passed.

    I blame prograf.

  • I drove by this today.

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  • B-2 Video

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    89th8

    Haha that is awesome

  • The Ship In The Desert

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    89th8

    Reminds me of the movie Sahara that came out in 2005.

    BTW yes it's desert but this is how close to the water:

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  • Some Essential Truth

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    (Is this the website of our @Tom-K ? LOL)

  • 2024: “I’m just getting started.”

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    taiwan_girlT

    @89th Wow! I am not sure I would be approaching it again so soon after the first eruption. Yes, the odds may be that it will not happen so soon again, but the downside is pretty big if it does!

  • About that COVID diagnosis...

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    jon-nycJ

    However, according to this source, US Secret Service informed LV Metro that there was an emergency situation involving Joe Biden and to close necessary streets so that POTUS could be transported immediately to University Medical, which they began to do in earnest. Then, mysteriously, there was a stand down order and the USSS informed local Vegas PD that they were going to "medivac" POTUS to Johns Hopkins, which they presumed meant fly him back east ASAP.

    None of that is inconsistent with his Covid diagnosis.

  • "Customer states that...."

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    taiwan_girlT

    Crazy! Hope I never drive behind one of these cars.

  • I haven't eaten there in years.

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    taiwan_girlT

    I like buffets. LOL

    (Somewhat related, but here is the standard operating procedure for workers in a US Chinese buffet, and is one reason why they are relatively "cheap". I should add that this is SOME (not all( of the Chinese buffets.

    90% of the workers are in the US illegally typical work week is 6 days/week, generally 12 hours/day usually room and board is provided. Most meals will be eaten at the buffet. The buffet owner will own a house and the workers will stay there. wait staff often does not get a salary, but makes their money through tips. Kitchen staff will get a salary (at least partially in cash), not a lot but more than they could make back home. Most of the staff is sending a significant part of their salary back to their home country Adverts are all over a big city Chinatown (like Chicago) advertising for restaurant workers )