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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1152

    Seems counterproductive. Might be better to just take Kharg and starve their economy.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • A Offline
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      AndyD
      wrote on last edited by
      #1153

      I'd do exactly what he's doing and blow Kharg out of the water. And destroy every Iranian coastal landing area for miles.
      It's costing a billion a day, what's a few more missiles.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #1154

        @jon-nyc said:

        I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

        I was thinking the same.

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #1155

          So the Navy announced a blockade of Iranian ports but specifically disavowed Trump’s stated intention of blockading the strait as a whole.

          This is better that’s for sure.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #1156

            First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

            The commies are winning.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

            Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

            Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #1157

              Confrontation is set.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #1158

                Exactly how would the US blockade work? I mean in actual terms. Shooting torpedoes at any boat that tries to cross the red rover red rover line?

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1159

                  I think they instruct them to stop and return with the implied threat of violence if they don’t. I think the next step is boarding the vessel if it’s commercial.

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                    AndyD
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1160

                    Whatever worked for Venezuela.
                    Certainly stay at a reasonably safe distance but where you can respond to intelligence quickly. The seas to the south of the Strait.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

                      The commies are winning.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

                      Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                      Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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                      Tom-K
                      wrote on last edited by Tom-K
                      #1161

                      @Axtremus said:

                      Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                      Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

                      So what? China runs out of oil on June 8th. Ryan McBeth--a good analysis.

                      Link to video

                      Bottom line is this war (except for a few dollars at the pump) isn't hurting me at all. Maybe higher prices for delivery of some things later on--but I'm not seeing a personal downside from the whole thing. And--some stocks are up and some are down. Overall I see a bit of a loss but that's a random occurrence anyway.

                      Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Confrontation is set.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1162

                        jon-nyc said:

                        Confrontation is set.

                        This was deleted for lack of verification. Good news.

                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1163

                          Hahahahahahahaha

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1164

                            Before you know it he’ll be negotiating Obama’s old JCPOA back into existence.

                            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1165

                              You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                                #1166

                                @89th He really lacks a long term vision on so many things. Or maybe he thinks he does but is not able to make the necessary connections and potential consequences. Or maybe a combination of the above.

                                But, long term vision for a politician is not easy, whether it is President Trump or somebody else They rarely look past the next election.

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1167

                                  So S&P back to pre war levels. Will the bull market bounce back?

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1168

                                    I’m not complaining

                                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1169

                                      S&P hit a new high today.

                                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                      • bachophileB Offline
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                                        bachophile
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1170

                                        im not complaining either

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/business/stocks-record-iran-war.html

                                        “The market is trading assuming we have seen the worst of the conflict,” said Stefano Pascale, an equity analyst at Barclays."

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                                        • Tom-KT Offline
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                                          Tom-K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1171

                                          There are a lot of big energy and energy related companies on the S and P. And wars tend to stimulate the economy at least in the short term. Also there might be some Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Anyway, all good.

                                          Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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