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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

    The commies are winning.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

    Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

    Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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    #1161

    @Axtremus said:

    Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

    Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

    So what? China runs out of oil on June 8th. Ryan McBeth--a good analysis.

    Link to video

    Bottom line is this war (except for a few dollars at the pump) isn't hurting me at all. Maybe higher prices for delivery of some things later on--but I'm not seeing a personal downside from the whole thing. And--some stocks are up and some are down. Overall I see a bit of a loss but that's a random occurrence anyway.

    Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Confrontation is set.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #1162

      jon-nyc said:

      Confrontation is set.

      This was deleted for lack of verification. Good news.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #1163

        Hahahahahahahaha

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #1164

          Before you know it he’ll be negotiating Obama’s old JCPOA back into existence.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #1165

            You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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            • 89th8 89th

              You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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              wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
              #1166

              @89th He really lacks a long term vision on so many things. Or maybe he thinks he does but is not able to make the necessary connections and potential consequences. Or maybe a combination of the above.

              But, long term vision for a politician is not easy, whether it is President Trump or somebody else They rarely look past the next election.

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              • bachophileB Offline
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                bachophile
                wrote on last edited by
                #1167

                So S&P back to pre war levels. Will the bull market bounce back?

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1168

                  I’m not complaining

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1169

                    S&P hit a new high today.

                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                    • bachophileB Offline
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                      bachophile
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1170

                      im not complaining either

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/business/stocks-record-iran-war.html

                      “The market is trading assuming we have seen the worst of the conflict,” said Stefano Pascale, an equity analyst at Barclays."

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                      • Tom-KT Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1171

                        There are a lot of big energy and energy related companies on the S and P. And wars tend to stimulate the economy at least in the short term. Also there might be some Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Anyway, all good.

                        Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1172

                          Delivered in pallets, no doubt.

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #1173

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/even-iran-s-european-appeasers-now-can-t-deny-the-ayatollahs-are-losing/ar-AA218q72

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            • W Offline
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                              Wim
                              wrote last edited by Wim
                              #1174

                              Horluz strait closed again

                              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
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                                #1175

                                Whiplash.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                • W Wim

                                  Horluz strait closed again

                                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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                                  #1176

                                  @Wim said:

                                  Horluz strait closed again

                                  Temporarily or permanently?

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Whiplash.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote last edited by
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                                    @Mik said:

                                    Whiplash.

                                    Ye of little faith, it’s just Trump thinking he’s playing 5D chess.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Wim said:

                                      Horluz strait closed again

                                      Temporarily or permanently?

                                      W Offline
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                                      Wim
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1178

                                      @Doctor-Phibes No idea. Depends on negotiations next week I guess...

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1179

                                        "Hormuz is closed anyway. Also, closing Hormuz is good for us. And if they don't open Hormuz, I will end them!"

                                        IMG_2001.jpeg

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1180

                                          No one pays much attention to these rants anymore. Much noise and fury signifying nothing.

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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