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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #1159

    I think they instruct them to stop and return with the implied threat of violence if they don’t. I think the next step is boarding the vessel if it’s commercial.

    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      AndyD
      wrote on last edited by
      #1160

      Whatever worked for Venezuela.
      Certainly stay at a reasonably safe distance but where you can respond to intelligence quickly. The seas to the south of the Strait.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

        The commies are winning.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

        Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

        Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

        Tom-KT Offline
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        Tom-K
        wrote on last edited by Tom-K
        #1161

        @Axtremus said:

        Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

        Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

        So what? China runs out of oil on June 8th. Ryan McBeth--a good analysis.

        Link to video

        Bottom line is this war (except for a few dollars at the pump) isn't hurting me at all. Maybe higher prices for delivery of some things later on--but I'm not seeing a personal downside from the whole thing. And--some stocks are up and some are down. Overall I see a bit of a loss but that's a random occurrence anyway.

        Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Confrontation is set.

          jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #1162

          jon-nyc said:

          Confrontation is set.

          This was deleted for lack of verification. Good news.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #1163

            Hahahahahahahaha

            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #1164

              Before you know it he’ll be negotiating Obama’s old JCPOA back into existence.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #1165

                You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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                • 89th8 89th

                  You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                  #1166

                  @89th He really lacks a long term vision on so many things. Or maybe he thinks he does but is not able to make the necessary connections and potential consequences. Or maybe a combination of the above.

                  But, long term vision for a politician is not easy, whether it is President Trump or somebody else They rarely look past the next election.

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                  • bachophileB Offline
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                    bachophile
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1167

                    So S&P back to pre war levels. Will the bull market bounce back?

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1168

                      I’m not complaining

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1169

                        S&P hit a new high today.

                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                        • bachophileB Offline
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                          bachophile
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1170

                          im not complaining either

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/business/stocks-record-iran-war.html

                          “The market is trading assuming we have seen the worst of the conflict,” said Stefano Pascale, an equity analyst at Barclays."

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                          • Tom-KT Offline
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                            Tom-K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1171

                            There are a lot of big energy and energy related companies on the S and P. And wars tend to stimulate the economy at least in the short term. Also there might be some Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Anyway, all good.

                            Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1172

                              Delivered in pallets, no doubt.

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1173

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/even-iran-s-european-appeasers-now-can-t-deny-the-ayatollahs-are-losing/ar-AA218q72

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                • W Offline
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                                  Wim
                                  wrote last edited by Wim
                                  #1174

                                  Horluz strait closed again

                                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #1175

                                    Whiplash.

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    • W Wim

                                      Horluz strait closed again

                                      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1176

                                      @Wim said:

                                      Horluz strait closed again

                                      Temporarily or permanently?

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Whiplash.

                                        AxtremusA Offline
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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1177

                                        @Mik said:

                                        Whiplash.

                                        Ye of little faith, it’s just Trump thinking he’s playing 5D chess.

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Wim said:

                                          Horluz strait closed again

                                          Temporarily or permanently?

                                          W Offline
                                          W Offline
                                          Wim
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1178

                                          @Doctor-Phibes No idea. Depends on negotiations next week I guess...

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