The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread
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Heard an interesting take on the Conflicted podcast by a former Al Qaeda jihadist turned MI6 spy. He said Pakistan was up to mischief in softening the US demands when passing them to Iran, and significantly softening the Iranian demands when passing them to the US.
That would explain the apparent confusion between what the administration says it accepted as the basis for ceasefire negotiations and what the Iranians published (the 10 point list). I just wish the administration would publish the 10 point list it received from the Pakis*.
(*that's for you, Phebes)
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either way, alot of people here feel we r really fucked.
unless he really does manage to talk the iranians into handing over the enriched unranium
either way, alot of people here feel we r really fucked.
unless he really does manage to talk the iranians into handing over the enriched unranium
If the Iranian nuclear threat isn't ended there is no reason for any of this to have happened. The Houthis are bad actors as well as Hezbollah and all the other things Iran has a hand in but those problems most likely could be handled piecemeal locally. The nuclear bomb could be a major problem for Israel and the world for a long long time if not taken care of.
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Naval Blockade.
Interesting tactic.
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Donald J. Trump
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So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz. At some point, we will reach an “ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT” basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, “There may be a mine out there somewhere,” that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted. I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their “Leaders,” are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition. The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran! President DONALD J. TRUMP -
I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.
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First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.
The commies are winning.
Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.
Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.
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First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.
The commies are winning.
Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.
Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.
Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.
Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.
So what? China runs out of oil on June 8th. Ryan McBeth--a good analysis.
Link to videoBottom line is this war (except for a few dollars at the pump) isn't hurting me at all. Maybe higher prices for delivery of some things later on--but I'm not seeing a personal downside from the whole thing. And--some stocks are up and some are down. Overall I see a bit of a loss but that's a random occurrence anyway.
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