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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #1146

    Aw, man, the pakis wouldn't lie, right? RIGHT?

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote last edited by
      #1147

      I assume this is a product of Pakistani mischief.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        either way, alot of people here feel we r really fucked.

        unless he really does manage to talk the iranians into handing over the enriched unranium

        Tom-KT Offline
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        Tom-K
        wrote last edited by
        #1148

        @bachophile said:

        either way, alot of people here feel we r really fucked.

        unless he really does manage to talk the iranians into handing over the enriched unranium

        If the Iranian nuclear threat isn't ended there is no reason for any of this to have happened. The Houthis are bad actors as well as Hezbollah and all the other things Iran has a hand in but those problems most likely could be handled piecemeal locally. The nuclear bomb could be a major problem for Israel and the world for a long long time if not taken care of.

        Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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        • bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
          wrote last edited by bachophile
          #1149

          Naval Blockade.

          Interesting tactic.

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          • bachophileB Offline
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            bachophile
            wrote last edited by bachophile
            #1150

            Donald J. Trump
            @realDonaldTrump
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            So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz. At some point, we will reach an “ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT” basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, “There may be a mine out there somewhere,” that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted. I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their “Leaders,” are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition. The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran! President DONALD J. TRUMP

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
              #1151

              I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote last edited by
                #1152

                Seems counterproductive. Might be better to just take Kharg and starve their economy.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • A Offline
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                  AndyD
                  wrote last edited by
                  #1153

                  I'd do exactly what he's doing and blow Kharg out of the water. And destroy every Iranian coastal landing area for miles.
                  It's costing a billion a day, what's a few more missiles.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote last edited by Renauda
                    #1154

                    @jon-nyc said:

                    I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

                    I was thinking the same.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #1155

                      So the Navy announced a blockade of Iranian ports but specifically disavowed Trump’s stated intention of blockading the strait as a whole.

                      This is better that’s for sure.

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        Axtremus
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1156

                        First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

                        The commies are winning.

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

                        Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                        Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote last edited by
                          #1157

                          Confrontation is set.

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
                            wrote last edited by
                            #1158

                            Exactly how would the US blockade work? I mean in actual terms. Shooting torpedoes at any boat that tries to cross the red rover red rover line?

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by
                              #1159

                              I think they instruct them to stop and return with the implied threat of violence if they don’t. I think the next step is boarding the vessel if it’s commercial.

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                AndyD
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1160

                                Whatever worked for Venezuela.
                                Certainly stay at a reasonably safe distance but where you can respond to intelligence quickly. The seas to the south of the Strait.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

                                  The commies are winning.

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

                                  Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                                  Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

                                  Tom-KT Offline
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                                  Tom-K
                                  wrote last edited by Tom-K
                                  #1161

                                  @Axtremus said:

                                  Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                                  Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

                                  So what? China runs out of oil on June 8th. Ryan McBeth--a good analysis.

                                  Link to video

                                  Bottom line is this war (except for a few dollars at the pump) isn't hurting me at all. Maybe higher prices for delivery of some things later on--but I'm not seeing a personal downside from the whole thing. And--some stocks are up and some are down. Overall I see a bit of a loss but that's a random occurrence anyway.

                                  Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Confrontation is set.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #1162

                                    jon-nyc said:

                                    Confrontation is set.

                                    This was deleted for lack of verification. Good news.

                                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1163

                                      Hahahahahahahaha

                                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1164

                                        Before you know it he’ll be negotiating Obama’s old JCPOA back into existence.

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          89th
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1165

                                          You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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